[Vision2020] Conspiracy?

[Donovan Arnold]

Scott,

You are partially correct. I didn't word that correctly. I should have said, 
add 2-3 votes for every 30 votes Bush got on the e-voting machines. That 
would give him enough of an edge to win. So he could still lose in 
Democratic precincts, but still win if he loses by smaller margins in 
traditional Democratic precincts and wins by a larger margin in swing and 
Republican precincts.  I don't think they would be so stupid as to set it up 
so that Bush won even the most Democratic of precincts or to change the 
political dynamics of a precinct which would send off alarms. For example, 
if precinct 15 in Moscow went Republican, I would be going to the press and 
knocking on doors. Same as if Genesee voted heavily Democratic.

Keep in mind also, that e-voting machines are only about 30% of the voting 
machines. So you need to add one vote for every 30 or so to get a one 
percent advantage. So changing 5 votes for every 60 votes in Florida or 
Ohio, would be about a 95% guarantee that Bush would win. It would give just 
big enough of an advantage to win without causing suspicion.

The way to check it, would be to see if Bush won by a 1-3% higher than 
normal margin in e-voting machine precincts as opposed to other precincts 
with similar political dynamics. For example, if precinct 3 in Columbus, 
Ohio always voted in lock step with precinct 4 for the last 50 years but 
precinct 4 votes 3% more for Bush than it did for Kerry, and precinct 4 got 
new e-voting machines  it would not be a big deal as one incident. But if 
this occurred throughout the state and the country, it would be 
statistically significant and warrant investigation. Somebody should check 
this out.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold



>From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Conspiracy?
>Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 09:20:24 -0800 (PST)
>
>Donovan,
>
>If all the voting machines were rigged, then Kerry
>would not have carried a single state.  And if they
>were only rigged in Ohio and Florida, then Kerry would
>not have carried a single county in either of those
>states.
>
>There would be some clear indications of
>irregularities such as Democratic precincts
>mysteriously voting Republican.  The press should be
>all over this story if it has any legs...or have the
>Republicans gotten to them too!?!
>
>-Scott
>
>--- Donovan Arnold <donovanarnold at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > What if all e-voting machines were ordered to give
> > 32-33 votes for Bush for
> > every 30 for Kerry, that would be a realistic
> > number, and set Bush several
> > million votes ahead. Especially if he did it in
> > states like Ohio and
> > Florida. It would also be hard to catch.
> >
> > The way to test the theory would be to see if
> > e-voting machines were voting
> > 2-3 points higher Republican than in areas with
> > paper ballots.
> >
> > I am not saying that Bush didn't win. What I am
> > saying is that it is
> > possible he didn't win. I would tend to think that
> > even Republicans would
> > want to know for sure if Bush really won. Further,
> > since when did we start
> > caring about the popular vote?
> >
> > Take Care,
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> > >From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Conspiracy?
> > >Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 01:08:09 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Bush's margin of victory was around 4 million in
> > the
> > >popular vote which puts the issue of voter fraud
> > >affecting the outcome to rest.  The losing side has
> > a
> > >nasty habit of accusing the other side of stealing
> > the
> > >election.  The conservatives still claim that
> > Kennedy
> > >stole the 1960 election and pile heaps of praise on
> > >Nixon for conceding and saving the country from
> > having
> > >to sort out the mess.
> > >
> > >I do have one question about the voting...if Bush
> > was
> > >seen as the one better able to protect America from
> > >terrorism and protection against terror strikes was
> > so
> > >high on the list of choosing a president, why is it
> > >that New York (which was attacked) and New Jersey
> > >(which lost so many in the 9/11 attack) voted for
> > >Kerry.
> > >
> > >-Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Tbertruss at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Regardless of whether Bush stole
> > > > this one, or not, we need a Marshall Plan to
> > invest
> > > > in the voting systems in
> > > > the US to monitor and improve everything.  It is
> > > > astonishing the problems
> > > > reported that you describe with this election!
> > > >
> > >
> >
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