[Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?

Carl Westberg carlwestberg846@hotmail.com
Wed, 19 May 2004 14:43:57 -0700


Geez, I don't know, Pat.  I kind of like waffles.  You've got your Belgian, 
you've got your plain, you've got your choice of toppings, whipped cream, 
maple syrup.  What's wrong with waffles?  Dubya, however, strikes me as more 
of a grits kinda guy.  I hate grits....                                      
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                             
           Carl Westberg Jr.


>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut@moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?
>Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:20:19 -0700
>
>So, once again Kerry waffles.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joan Opyr
>   To: Vision2020 Moscow
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:05 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?
>
>
>   Pat writes:
>
>   >I have also heard that Catholics all have sex with the priest in the 
>confessional...but I have no evidence of it myself. It >curious to me that 
>every email that responded to this completely ignored the part about Kerry 
>and the other politicians >and their voting records that are opposite of 
>the tenets of the church. Thats what my email was really about.
>
>
>   Consider this -- Kerry's pro-choice stance on abortion conflicts with 
>Catholic doctrine, but his opposition to the death penalty is in perfect 
>harmony with the Church's teaching.  So, if Kerry is not obedient to the 
>Church on all points of doctrine, is it necessarily the case that he is in 
>utter conflict?  Or, as you seem to suggest, a hypocrite?  Could it be that 
>Kerry, like the rest of us, makes difficult and nuanced decisions according 
>to his conscience?  And here's another point to consider: is opposition to 
>abortion more important to the Catholic Church than opposition to the death 
>penalty?  I have read nothing to indicate that Catholic bishops are 
>considering withholding the sacrament of communion from pro-death penalty 
>politicians and parishioners.
>
>   George Bush is anti-choice, pro-death penalty, and Methodist.  Where 
>does the Methodist Church come down on these issues?  Is Mr. Bush in any 
>way in conflict with his church's teachings?
>
>   Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>
>   PS: The Catholic Church strongly opposed the war in Iraq.  How many 
>Catholic politicians -- or, for that matter, Catholics generally -- 
>followed the Pope's lead on that issue?
>
>
>
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