[Vision2020] Ask Bush to stand up to a real debate
Pat Kraut
pkraut@moscow.com
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While there may be some people who like Bush and don't want him in for =
another four years there are many more that like him and do want him for =
another four years.=20
So.....we'll see what happens
PK
Unless Kerry is found with a dead girl or live boy he will be the next =
President. Even people that like Bush don't want him in for another 4 =
years. Every week is a new scandle and he is a free spending liberal =
that has no clue as to the meaning of the word "Budget". He is gone in =
January of 05.=20
Donovan J Arnold
>From: Paul Duffau=20
>To: thansen@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com=20
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ask Bush to stand up to a real debate=20
>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:06:18 -0800=20
>=20
>Tom,=20
>Why spoil the fun? I'm enjoying Kerry debate himself. He's for $87 =
billion for Iraq then he's against it. He's for weapons systems that he =
was against. He's against tax cuts but he's for them. Please, please, =
please don't stop the Kerry v.Kerry show. It beats anything (except the =
NCAA's) on TV.=20
>=20
>Paul Duffau=20
>=20
>At 08:12 PM 3/22/04 +0000, you wrote:=20
> > >From Moveon.org -=20
> >=20
> >Several weeks ago, Tom Cole, a Republican Congressman in Oklahoma =
spoke to=20
> >supporters about the upcoming election. "If George Bush loses the =
election,=20
> >Osama bin Laden wins the election," he told them. (1) Later, he =
said that a=20
> >vote against Bush was like a vote for Adolf Hitler.=20
> >=20
> >These hateful and outrageous remarks =AD- which neither the RNC nor =
the=20
> >Bush/Cheney campaign will repudiate -- are representative of the =
negative=20
> >campaign being rolled out against John Kerry. Bush is now airing =
the first=20
> >negative ads of the season, which according to nonpartisan monitors =
(2)=20
> >seriously misled viewers about Kerry's record.=20
> >=20
> >In response, Senator Kerry is taking the high road. He's asked =
President Bush=20
> >to engage in a series of monthly debates on the country's future -- =
debates on=20
> >the real substance of the issues that face us. It's a simple =
proposal that=20
> >could elevate the campaign and truly educate the country about the =
positions=20
> >and records of each candidate. But President Bush's campaign =
brushed off the=20
> >suggestion with a snide remark. (3)=20
> >=20
> >Today, we're asking President Bush to stand up and face a real =
debate. You can=20
> >join our petition asking President Bush to debate Kerry on the =
future of our=20
> >country at:=20
> >=20
> =
>http://www.moveonpac.org/debate/?id=3D2476-1614596-IIN5sQ7ftxxAuZNEtUftU=
A=20
> >=20
> >We'll send your comment on to the Bush/Cheney campaign and =
highlight this issue=20
> >in the media.=20
> >=20
> >The negative tenor of the campaign so far even has Republicans =
worried.=20
> >Senator John McCain reprimanded the President for the negative =
campaign,=20
> >saying, "Already, I'm hearing from people here that are saying, =
'Look, I'm not=20
> >even going to vote if this is the way the campaign's going to be =
conducted.'"(4)=20
> >=20
> >Here's a summary of some of the attacks that have unfolded just in =
the first=20
> >two weeks.=20
> >=20
> > * In the first negative ad of the general election, President =
Bush claimed=20
> >that Kerry would raise taxes by $900 billion. The figure turned =
out to be=20
> >entirely made up -- John Kerry promised to lower taxes on working =
families, not=20
> >raise them. (5)=20
> >=20
> > * President Bush personally accused Kerry of attempting to "gut" =
the=20
> >intelligence budget in a "deeply irresponsible" move: Yet, as =
independent=20
> >media monitor factcheck.org pointed out, "the proposal Bush =
criticized would=20
> >have amounted to a reduction of roughly 1%. And senior =
congressional=20
> >Republicans supported a cut two-thirds as large at the time." (6)=20
> >=20
> > * Vice President Cheney told reporters that he believed Kerry =
does not have "an=20
> >impressive record for someone who aspires to be commander in chief =
in this time=20
> >of testing for our country." (7)=20
> >=20
> >By any standard, the campaign is already one of the most negative =
in political=20
> >history. But by engaging in a forward-looking debate, President =
Bush could=20
> >turn things around. It's much easier to make misleading claims in =
TV ads than=20
> >to someone's face, and both Kerry and Bush would have hours -- not =
seconds --=20
> >to make their case to the public.=20
> >=20
> >Join us in asking President Bush to take the high road now at:=20
> >=20
> =
>http://www.moveonpac.org/debate/?id=3D2476-1614596-IIN5sQ7ftxxAuZNEtUftU=
A=20
> >=20
> >Sincerely,=20
> >--Adam, Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Laura, Wes, and Zack=20
> >The MoveOn PAC Team=20
> >March 22nd, 2004=20
> >=20
> >Footnotes:=20
> >=20
> >1. "Inside Politics," Washington Times, 3/4/04=20
> >http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040304-111104-3096r.htm=20
> >=20
> >2. "Bush Strains Facts Re: Kerry's Plan To Cut Intelligence Funding =
in '90's,"=20
> >FactCheck.org, 3/15/04=20
> >http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=3D153=20
> >=20
> >3. "Kerry Suggests Monthly Debates With President; Bush Campaign =
Rejects the=20
> >Idea,"=20
> >Washington Post, 3/13/04=20
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56468-2004Mar13.html =
> >=20
> >4. "McCain, Lieberman on 'Fox News Sunday'," Foxnews.com, 3/21/04=20
> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114763,00.html=20
> >=20
> >5. "George Bush's Credibility Problem: The Truth Behind His New =
Attack Ad,"=20
> >JohnKerry.com, 3/12/04=20
> >http://blog.johnkerry.com/dbunker/archives/001352.html#001352=20
> >=20
> >6. See 2, above.=20
> >=20
> >7. "Cheney calls Kerry weak on defense," CNN.com, 3/18/04=20
> >http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/17/cheney.reut/=20
> >=20
> >=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While there may be some people who like =
Bush and=20
don't want him in for another four years there are many more that like =
him and=20
do want him for another four years. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So.....we'll see what =
happens</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PK</FONT></DIV>
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<P>Unless Kerry is found with a dead girl or live boy he will be the =
next=20
President. Even people that like Bush don't want him in for another 4 =
years.=20
Every week is a new scandle and he is a free spending liberal =
that has no=20
clue as to the meaning of the word "Budget". He is gone in January of =
05. </P>
<P>Donovan J Arnold</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: Paul Duffau <PDUFFAU@ADELPHIA.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>,=20
<A href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ask Bush to stand up to a =
real debate=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:06:18 -0800=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Tom,=20
<DIV></DIV>>Why spoil the fun? I'm enjoying Kerry debate =
himself. He's for $87 billion for Iraq then he's against=20
it. He's for weapons systems that he was =
against. He's=20
against tax cuts but he's for them. Please, please, please =
don't=20
stop the Kerry v.Kerry show. It beats anything (except the =
NCAA's)=20
on TV.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Paul Duffau=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>At 08:12 PM 3/22/04 +0000, you wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>> > >From Moveon.org -=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Several weeks ago, Tom Cole, a Republican =
Congressman in=20
Oklahoma spoke to=20
<DIV></DIV>> >supporters about the upcoming =
election. "If=20
George Bush loses the election,=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Osama bin Laden wins the election," he told them.=20
(1) Later, he said that a=20
<DIV></DIV>> >vote against Bush was like a vote for Adolf =
Hitler.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >These hateful and outrageous remarks ­- which =
neither=20
the RNC nor the=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Bush/Cheney campaign will repudiate -- are =
representative=20
of the negative=20
<DIV></DIV>> >campaign being rolled out against John=20
Kerry. Bush is now airing the first=20
<DIV></DIV>> >negative ads of the season, which according to =
nonpartisan=20
monitors (2)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >seriously misled viewers about Kerry's record.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >In response, Senator Kerry is taking the high=20
road. He's asked President Bush=20
<DIV></DIV>> >to engage in a series of monthly debates on the =
country's=20
future -- debates on=20
<DIV></DIV>> >the real substance of the issues that face=20
us. It's a simple proposal that=20
<DIV></DIV>> >could elevate the campaign and truly educate the =
country=20
about the positions=20
<DIV></DIV>> >and records of each candidate. But =
President=20
Bush's campaign brushed off the=20
<DIV></DIV>> >suggestion with a snide remark. (3)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Today, we're asking President Bush to stand up and =
face a=20
real debate. You can=20
<DIV></DIV>> >join our petition asking President Bush to debate =
Kerry on=20
the future of our=20
<DIV></DIV>> >country at:=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
=
>http://www.moveonpac.org/debate/?id=3D2476-1614596-IIN5sQ7ftxxAuZNEtU=
ftUA=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >We'll send your comment on to the Bush/Cheney =
campaign and=20
highlight this issue=20
<DIV></DIV>> >in the media.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >The negative tenor of the campaign so far even has =
Republicans worried.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Senator John McCain reprimanded the President for =
the=20
negative campaign,=20
<DIV></DIV>> >saying, "Already, I'm hearing from people here =
that are=20
saying, 'Look, I'm not=20
<DIV></DIV>> >even going to vote if this is the way the =
campaign's going=20
to be conducted.'"(4)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Here's a summary of some of the attacks that have =
unfolded=20
just in the first=20
<DIV></DIV>> >two weeks.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > * In the first negative ad of the =
general=20
election, President Bush claimed=20
<DIV></DIV>> >that Kerry would raise taxes by $900=20
billion. The figure turned out to be=20
<DIV></DIV>> >entirely made up -- John Kerry promised to lower =
taxes on=20
working families, not=20
<DIV></DIV>> >raise them. (5)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > * President Bush personally accused =
Kerry of=20
attempting to "gut" the=20
<DIV></DIV>> >intelligence budget in a "deeply irresponsible"=20
move: Yet, as independent=20
<DIV></DIV>> >media monitor factcheck.org pointed out, "the =
proposal=20
Bush criticized would=20
<DIV></DIV>> >have amounted to a reduction of roughly 1%. And =
senior=20
congressional=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Republicans supported a cut two-thirds as large at =
the=20
time." (6)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > * Vice President Cheney told reporters =
that he=20
believed Kerry does not have "an=20
<DIV></DIV>> >impressive record for someone who aspires to be =
commander=20
in chief in this time=20
<DIV></DIV>> >of testing for our country." (7)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >By any standard, the campaign is already one of =
the most=20
negative in political=20
<DIV></DIV>> >history. But by engaging in a =
forward-looking=20
debate, President Bush could=20
<DIV></DIV>> >turn things around. It's much easier to =
make=20
misleading claims in TV ads than=20
<DIV></DIV>> >to someone's face, and both Kerry and Bush would =
have=20
hours -- not seconds --=20
<DIV></DIV>> >to make their case to the public.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Join us in asking President Bush to take the high =
road now=20
at:=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
=
>http://www.moveonpac.org/debate/?id=3D2476-1614596-IIN5sQ7ftxxAuZNEtU=
ftUA=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Sincerely,=20
<DIV></DIV>> >--Adam, Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Laura, Wes, and =
Zack=20
<DIV></DIV>> >The MoveOn PAC Team=20
<DIV></DIV>> >March 22nd, 2004=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Footnotes:=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >1. "Inside Politics," Washington Times, 3/4/04=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
>http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040304-111104-3096r.htm=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >2. "Bush Strains Facts Re: Kerry's Plan To Cut=20
Intelligence Funding in '90's,"=20
<DIV></DIV>> >FactCheck.org, 3/15/04=20
<DIV></DIV>> >http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=3D153=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >3. "Kerry Suggests Monthly Debates With President; =
Bush=20
Campaign Rejects the=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Idea,"=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Washington Post, 3/13/04=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
=
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56468-2004Mar13.html=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >4. "McCain, Lieberman on 'Fox News Sunday'," =
Foxnews.com,=20
3/21/04=20
<DIV></DIV>> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114763,00.html =
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >5. "George Bush's Credibility Problem: The Truth =
Behind=20
His New Attack Ad,"=20
<DIV></DIV>> >JohnKerry.com, 3/12/04=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
>http://blog.johnkerry.com/dbunker/archives/001352.html#001352=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >6. See 2, above.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >7. "Cheney calls Kerry weak on defense," CNN.com, =
3/18/04=20
<DIV></DIV>> =
>http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/17/cheney.reut/=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >PAID FOR BY MoveOn PAC=20
<DIV></DIV>> >P.O. Box 9218, Berkeley, CA=20
<DIV></DIV>> >94709=20
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