[Vision2020] All Stile, no substance.
Art Deco aka W. Fox
deco@moscow.com
Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:44:47 -0800
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Normal Folks,
In different language from Joan, a restatement: Kirker PS Stile argues:
[A] The bible is true because it is the word of god.
How do you know the bible is the word of god?
The bible says so.
How do we know what the bible says is true?
See [A].
The is a classic example of a circular argument -- a fallacious argument
form assuming as true what you are trying to prove.
Logos School and New Saint Andrews conceitedly and loudly crow about their
courses in logic. Maybe they should learn it before they attempt to teach
it.
Wayne Fox
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joan Opyr" <auntiestablishment@hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:06 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] All Stile, no substance.
> Let me get out my compass and trace the radius of Mr. Stile's reasoning:
the
> Bible is inerrant because God is God and God is inerrant and the Bible
says
> that it's the word of God and therefore the Bible is inerrant. Finnegan,
> begin again, ad infinitum. While you haven't proven your point, Mr.
Stile,
> you have given us an answer to the old hymn, "Will the Circle Be
Unbroken?"
>
> God: I am that I am.
> Popeye: And that's all what I yam.
> Therefore: God gets his supernatural strength from spinach.
>
> I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today,
>
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>
> PS, P.S.: Over the ages, many philosophers and theologians have offered
> interesting proofs of the existence of God, some without resorting to the
> old snake-biting-its-tail trick. As a medievalist, I refer you to Thomas
> Aquinas. As a modernist, I refer you to Kierkegaard.
>
> (Kierkegaard placed God beyond reason. Thanks to Mr. Stile, now we know
> why.)
>
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<DIV>Normal Folks,</DIV>
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<DIV>In different language from Joan, a restatement: =20
<STRONG>Kirker</STRONG> PS Stile argues:</DIV>
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<DIV>[A] The bible is true because it is the word of=20
god.</DIV>
<DIV> How do you =
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bible is the word of god?</DIV>
<DIV> The bible says so.</DIV>
<DIV> How do we know what the bible =
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true?</DIV>
<DIV> See [A].</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The is a classic example of a circular argument -- a fallacious =
argument=20
form assuming as true what you are trying to prove.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Logos School and New Saint Andrews conceitedly and =
loudly crow=20
about their courses in logic. Maybe they should learn it before =
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attempt to teach it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne Fox</DIV>
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<DIV>From: "Joan Opyr" <<A=20
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<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: [Vision2020] All Stile, no substance.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>> Let me get out my compass and trace the radius of =
Mr.=20
Stile's reasoning: the <BR>> Bible is inerrant because God is God and =
God is=20
inerrant and the Bible says <BR>> that it's the word of God and =
therefore the=20
Bible is inerrant. Finnegan, <BR>> begin again, ad =
infinitum. =20
While you haven't proven your point, Mr. Stile, <BR>> you have given =
us an=20
answer to the old hymn, "Will the Circle Be Unbroken?"<BR>> <BR>> =
God: I=20
am that I am.<BR>> Popeye: And that's all what I yam.<BR>> =
Therefore: God=20
gets his supernatural strength from spinach.<BR>> <BR>> I'll =
gladly pay=20
you Tuesday for a hamburger today,<BR>> <BR>> Joan Opyr/Auntie=20
Establishment<BR>> <BR>> PS, P.S.: Over the ages, many =
philosophers and=20
theologians have offered <BR>> interesting proofs of the existence of =
God,=20
some without resorting to the <BR>> old snake-biting-its-tail =
trick. As=20
a medievalist, I refer you to Thomas <BR>> Aquinas. As a =
modernist, I=20
refer you to Kierkegaard.<BR>> <BR>> (Kierkegaard placed God =
beyond=20
reason. Thanks to Mr. Stile, now we know <BR>> why.)<BR>> =
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