[Vision2020] Spam

Brad Neuman bradneuman@moscow.com
Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:22:02 -0800


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Actually Bill Gates idea is not that every user pays postage.  It is =
that
for a user to send mail, he/she post a small postage (think bond) fee.  =
If
the note turns out to be spam, the receiver gets this fee.  If the note =
is
legitimate, the send keeps the fee.

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I might be willing to put up with spam at 15 cents (just a guess) or so
charge.  It only takes about 1 second for me to hit delete.  That is a =
pay
rate of a little over $500 per hour.  Given that payment, I would be =
willing
to get all the spam in the world.  I could quit my job and just get spam =
all
day.

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Brad Neuman

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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] =
On
Behalf Of LuJane Nisse publisher
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:16 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Spam

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we don't pay postage on email? I thought we did... it is called a =
monthly
charge to a provider such as First Step.

A "per email" charge would sure cut down on spam I bet.

back to page layout.....

LJ

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:59 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Spam

Interested Parties,

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It might be interesting to see how Vision 2020 subscribers feel about =
the
effects of recent federal anti-spam legislation.

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How does the average number per week now compare with before the
legislation?

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Has the kind or subjects of the spam changed in any way since the
legislation?

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Do you agree will Bill Gates that users (all) of email should pay =
postage?

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To those that use Postini:  What is your opinion?  How could it be =
improved?

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What kind of solutions would you propose for controlling or eliminating
spam?

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What other comments do you have about spam?

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Wayne Fox

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Actually Bill Gates idea is not =
that every
user pays postage.&nbsp; It is that for a user to send mail, he/she post =
a small
postage (think bond) fee.&nbsp; If the note turns out to be spam, the =
receiver gets
this fee.&nbsp; If the note is legitimate, the send keeps the =
fee.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I might be willing to put up with =
spam at
15 cents (just a guess) or so charge.&nbsp; It only takes about 1 second =
for me to
hit delete.&nbsp; That is a pay rate of a little over $500 per =
hour.&nbsp; Given that
payment, I would be willing to get all the spam in the world.&nbsp; I =
could quit my
job and just get spam all day.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>LuJane Nisse publisher<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 09, =
2004 2:16
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Vision2020] =
Spam</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'>we =
don't pay
postage on email? I thought we did... it is called a monthly charge to a
provider such as First Step.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'>A =
&quot;per
email&quot; charge would sure cut down on spam I bet.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'>back to page
layout.....</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'>LJ</span></font></p>

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.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Art Deco aka W. Fox<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 09, =
2004 1:59
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Vision2020] =
Spam</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Interested =
Parties,</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>It might be interesting =
to see how
Vision 2020 subscribers feel about the effects of recent federal =
anti-spam
legislation.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>How does the average =
number per
week now compare with before the legislation?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Has the kind or subjects =
of the
spam changed in any way since the legislation?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Do you agree will Bill =
Gates that
users (all) of email should pay postage?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>To those that use =
Postini:&nbsp;
What is your opinion?&nbsp; How could it be improved?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>What kind of solutions =
would you
propose for controlling or eliminating spam?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>What other comments do =
you have
about spam?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Wayne =
Fox</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<div>

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