[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office

[bubba jones]

Wayne,
Very good response.  Thanks for taking the time.  I can very much see your 
point.

B.

Yeah maybe I am over simplifying.

>From: "Art Deco" <deco@moscow.com>
>To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: Re:[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:54:03 -0800
>
>Bubba said:
>
>...and the state can prove it.
>
>Perhaps, it is not quite that simple.
>
>When ethical attorneys decide whether to go to trial or not, they make a
>guess about the probability of success.  A jury trial or even a judge trial
>is a crap shoot.  Even with a very strong case, you sometimes lose; even
>with a weak case you sometimes win.
>
>There are many variable factors at work:
>
>The competence of the attorneys,
>The experience of the attorneys,
>The preparation of the attorneys,
>The desire to succeed of the attorneys,
>The perceived reliability of the witnesses,
>The feeling of the judge toward the attorneys,
>The care with which evidence has been collected, tested, preserved, and
>presented
>Etc.
>
> >From the beginning with the investigation by law enforcement various
>prejudices come into play: friendship, politics, religion, work load,
>honesty, etc.
>
>I'm sorry to disagree, but I do not think the system works well in a lot of
>cases, e.g.  the guilty often get soft plea bargains due to the sloth and
>lack of guts of the PA offices.
>
>This is a complex question.  I don't claim to have the answers.  But I 
>spent
>sometime observing it in Boundary County, Idaho.  Some things I saw really
>disgusted and saddened me -- law enforcement officers who habitually
>perjured themselves, defense attorneys who were really unprepared,
>incompetent prosecutions, people who lied to get on a particular jury, etc.
>
>After discounting for honest errors, the amount and kind of perjury that
>goes on in the courtroom is astounding.
>
>Wayne Fox
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "bubba jones" <bubbajones9763@hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:00 AM
>Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office
>
>
> > Sunil,
> >
> > Granted. The PD should do everything in his/her power to make sure the
> > evidence can be proven and that the state hasn't violated anyones 
>rights.
> > If there are any questions regarding this then the case, by all means,
> > should go to trial.
> >
> > By "setting guilty people free" I meant that the defendant knows he did 
>it
> > and the state can prove it - nothing else.
> >
> > B. Jones
> >
> >
> > >From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com>
> > >To: bubbajones9763@hotmail.com, vision2020@moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office
> > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:43:30 -0800
> > >
> >
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