[Vision2020] Doug W's letter to Gov. Kempthorne
Saundra Lund
sslund@adelphia.net
Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:18:28 -0800
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Oh, Ms. Huskey, you trickster, you! Have you been taking secret lessons
from wilson et al in deceit? You almost had me going there until I =
realized
that even wilson wouldn't be silly enough to send such a whiny,
manipulative, deceitful letter to Governor Kempthorne . . . I'm sure he
knows he'd give them too big of a laugh to be taken seriously. Oh, I =
get
it: you're *really* one of those ridiculous Penguins.
=20
Besides, if he really sent such a silly letter, then I want to know =
where my
paycheck is! Since Mr. wilson states that "the driving force behind the
controversy is coming from certain offices at the University of Idaho, I
must have a stealth job even I'm not aware of, and so, too, must a bunch =
of
other community members. Show me the money ;-) Have any other =
community
members speaking out about Christ Church et al's shenanigans gotten =
their
paychecks? If so, please let me know because I'm feeling economically
deprived. There must be a slush fund . . . oh . . . wait . . . I get =
it:
there wasn't really a problem with Boise Place -- that money was really
targeted to fund those of us in the community to "incite" outrage. Ah . =
. .
I guess I'm just a little slow.
=20
Oh . . . wait . . . he *seriously* sent this letter?!?!? Are you =
kidding?
Surely he didn't really send such a letter . . . please, Please, PLEASE =
tell
me it ain't so!
=20
Well, I guess I'm not really surprised. In his letter to Gov. =
Kempthorne,
wilson wrote:
"This last weekend, Dr. Graden, another history professor, wrote an =
op-ed
piece for the Daily News in which he accused us of creating a climate =
which
would lead to the murder of gays and the burning of synagogues. (!)"
And, on the Christ Church Web site, wilson's response to Dr. Graden
includes:
"Actually, when you consider the statistics on life expectancy for
homosexuals, the inevitable conclusion is that it is the gay lifestyle =
that
wants to kill gays, not us. Just imagine the controversy if cigarettes
reduced the life expectancy of smokers to the same extent that the =
common
homosexual lifestyle does for homosexuals."
=20
Honestly, that's what he wrote! Check it out for yourselves! Go to:
http://www.christkirk.com/
Then, click on "Press Releases: It Isn't About Slavery."
=20
<sigh>
=20
Well, I guess I'll have to join Ms. Huskey in being speechless for right
now. wilson claims "the diversity police" are after them (whoever =
"them" is
. . . he mentions Logos, but has since tried to distance himself from
Logos), but it seems to me that wilson et al are after all those who =
don't
agree with their particular "flavor" of Christianity, and that includes =
all
of us who are for ***human*** rights.
=20
BTW, does anyone know the story Wilson returning Gov. Kempthorn's =
necktie???
I *hate* to think what that's about :-(
=20
=20
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to =
do
nothing.
-Edmund Burke=20
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] =
On
Behalf Of DonaldH675@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:38 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Doug W's letter to Gov. Kempthorne
Governor Dirk Kempthorne
Office of the Governor
700 West Jefferson, 2nd Floor
PO Box 83702
Boise, Idaho 83720-0034
=20
December 30, 2003
=20
Dear Governor Kempthorne,
=20
Greetings from the north, and I hope that this letter finds you well. I
wish my tone could be as light as the one of a few years ago in which I
returned your necktie from the Logos auction, but the seriousness of =
recent
events has precluded that.
=20
I am writing you with an important request. A controversy has been =
boiling
here in Moscow for the last several months, a good deal of it resting on =
the
back of inaccurate and defamatory material that is being circulated =
against
us and out ministries here in Moscow. Some of this is the result of the
incompetence of the Daily News, but the driving force behind the =
controversy
is coming from certain offices at the University of Idaho.
=20
What it boils down to is that the diversity police are after us. We =
have
sponsored an annual history conference here in Moscow for a number of =
years,
a conference that has brought in hundreds of people from all over the
country. The average attendance at this conference is about 800 people.
The Daily News reported (erroneously) that the conference this year was
going to be on slavery, which started the public outcry. But since that
time, much of the defamatory gasoline that has been keeping the =
slanderous
fire alive has come from the UI.
=20
In particular, Raul Sanchez of the Office of Diversity and Human Rights =
has
used his office's web site to help circulate defamatory material against =
us.
I have included with this letter a copy of a letter I sent to President
Michael and Provost Pitcher a week or so ago on that issue. The =
incendiary
essay referred to in my letter is by Drs. Quinlan and Ramsey, both of =
them
on the faculty of the history department at the UI. This last weekend, =
Dr.
Graden, another history professor, wrote an op-ed piece for the Daily =
News
in which he accused us of creating a climate which would lead to the =
murder
of gays and the burning of synagogues. (!)
=20
The actual circumstances are the reverse of this. The businesses of =
some of
our people have been vandalized, and the attacks on us are growing
increasingly brazen. UI professors are using time in class to incite
students against us, and consequently, since the response of the UI
administration has been positively anemic (e.g. allowing Raul Sanchez to =
use
his UI web site to circulate defamatory material), I am very concerned =
about
what may happen this February at our conference. If there is violence =
or
harassment of any kind (and there has already been quite a bit), it =
would
not be difficult at all to show how the UI nurtured the climate in which
this developed.
=20
In the best of times, I would find it problematic for individuals at a
publicly funded university to use their position to attack Christian
ministries for their failure to be secularists. But in the current =
climate,
for anyone up there at the University of Enron to set themselves up as =
moral
arbiters is a bit thick.
=20
As you no doubt know, liberals and progressives love diversity until =
they
actually start getting some. In writing this letter, I am not asking =
that
anyone's legitimate freedom of opinion or expression be restricted in =
any
way. But I am asking that the UI be removed as the base from which they
launch their mortar rounds. I am also asking that the Office of =
Diversity
apologize to us and to the public for this gross misuse of the resources =
of
a public university.
=20
This should go without saying, but I want to assure you that we have =
nothing
whatever to do with racism, white supremacy, white separatism, or any =
other
disease coming out of the fever swamps of the right wing. I do not want =
to
weary you with any details here, but we would be happy to answer any
questions you might have in this regard.
=20
As I said at the beginning, I wish the occasion for this letter was
something else. But there it is. I appreciate any attention you can =
give
to this matter,
=20
Cordially,
Douglas Wilson
=20
cc: Gary Michael, Brian Pitcher, Blake Hall, Raul Sanchez
=20
=20
Rose's note: If you would like to see this on the original letter head, =
as
usual, I urge you to stop by the office of Christ Church and ask for a =
copy.
Otherwise, for the time being words fail me.
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>Oh, Ms. Huskey, you trickster, =
you! =20
Have you been taking secret lessons from wilson et al in deceit? =
You=20
almost had me going there until I realized that even wilson wouldn't be =
silly=20
enough to send such a whiny, manipulative, deceitful letter to =
Governor=20
Kempthorne . . . I'm sure he knows he'd give them too big of a laugh to =
be taken=20
seriously. Oh, I get it: you're *really* one of those =
ridiculous=20
Penguins.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>Besides, if he really sent such a =
silly=20
letter, then I want to know where my paycheck is! Since Mr. wilson =
states=20
that "the driving force behind the controversy is coming from certain =
offices at=20
the University of Idaho, I must have a stealth job even I'm not aware =
of, and=20
so, too, must a bunch of other community members. Show me the =
money =20
;-) Have any other community members speaking out about Christ =
Church et=20
al's shenanigans gotten their paychecks? If so, please let me know =
because=20
I'm feeling economically deprived. There must be a slush fund . . =
. oh . .=20
. wait . . . I get it: there wasn't really a problem with Boise =
Place --=20
that money was really targeted to fund those of us in the community to =
"incite"=20
outrage. Ah . . . I guess I'm just a little slow.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>Oh . . . wait . . . he *seriously* =
sent this=20
letter?!?!? Are you kidding? Surely he didn't really send =
such a=20
letter . . . please, Please, PLEASE tell me it ain't so!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>Well, I guess I'm not really=20
surprised. In his letter to Gov. Kempthorne, wilson =
wrote:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>"This last weekend, Dr. Graden, =
another=20
history professor, wrote an op-ed piece for the Daily News in which he =
accused=20
us of creating a climate which would lead to the murder of gays and the =
burning=20
of synagogues. (!)"</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>And, on the Christ Church Web =
site, wilson's=20
response to Dr. Graden includes:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>"Actually, when you consider the =
statistics=20
on life expectancy for homosexuals, the inevitable conclusion is that it =
is the=20
gay lifestyle that wants to kill gays, not us. Just imagine the =
controversy if=20
cigarettes reduced the life expectancy of smokers to the same extent =
that the=20
common homosexual lifestyle does for homosexuals."</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>Honestly, that's what he =
wrote! Check=20
it out for yourselves! Go to:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004><A=20
href=3D"http://www.christkirk.com/">http://www.christkirk.com/</A></SPAN>=
</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>Then, click on "Press Releases: It =
Isn't=20
About Slavery."</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004><sigh></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>Well, I guess I'll have to join =
Ms. Huskey=20
in being speechless for right now. wilson claims "the diversity =
police"=20
are after them (whoever "them" is . . . he mentions Logos, but has since =
tried=20
to distance himself from Logos), but it seems to me that wilson et al =
are after=20
all those who don't agree with their particular "flavor" of =
Christianity, and=20
that includes all of us who are for ***human*** rights.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004>BTW, does anyone know the story =
Wilson=20
returning Gov. Kempthorn's necktie??? I *hate* to think what =
that's=20
about :-(</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV>Saundra<SPAN class=3D625461006-22012004> Lund</SPAN><BR>Moscow, =
ID<BR><BR>The=20
only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do=20
nothing.<BR>-Edmund Burke </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On =
Behalf=20
Of </B>DonaldH675@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 21, 2004 =
3:38=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Doug=20
W's letter to Gov. Kempthorne<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Governor Dirk Kempthorne</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Office of the Governor</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>700 West <st1:place>Jefferson</st1:place>, 2<SUP>nd</SUP>=20
Floor</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><st1:address><FONT =
size=3D3><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:Street>PO Box</st1:Street>=20
83702</FONT></FONT></st1:address></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><st1:place><FONT =
size=3D3><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:City>Boise</st1:City>,=20
<st1:State>Idaho</st1:State>=20
=
<st1:PostalCode>83720-0034</st1:PostalCode></FONT></FONT></st1:place></P>=
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><st1:date =
Year=3D"2003" Day=3D"30"=20
Month=3D"12"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>December 30,=20
2003</FONT></st1:date></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Dear Governor Kempthorne,</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Greetings from the north, and I hope that this letter finds =
you=20
well.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wish my tone =
could be as=20
light as the one of a few years ago in which I returned your necktie =
from the=20
Logos auction, but the seriousness of recent events has precluded=20
that.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>I am writing you with an important request.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A controversy has been =
boiling here in=20
<st1:City><st1:place>Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> for the last =
several=20
months, a good deal of it resting on the back of inaccurate and =
defamatory=20
material that is being circulated against us and out ministries here =
in=20
<st1:City><st1:place>Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some of this is the result =
of the=20
incompetence of the <I style=3D"mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Daily =
News</I>, but=20
the driving force behind the controversy is coming from certain =
offices at the=20
<st1:place><st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType> of=20
<st1:PlaceName>Idaho</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>What it boils down to is that the diversity police are after =
us.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have sponsored an annual =
history=20
conference here in <st1:City><st1:place>Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> =
for a=20
number of years, a conference that has brought in hundreds of people =
from all=20
over the country.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The =
average=20
attendance at this conference is about 800 people.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The <I=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Daily News</I> reported (<I=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-style: normal">erroneously</I>) that the =
conference this=20
year was going to be on slavery, which started the public outcry.<SPAN =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But since that time, much of =
the=20
defamatory gasoline that has been keeping the slanderous fire alive =
has come=20
from the UI.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>In particular, Raul Sanchez of the Office of Diversity and =
Human Rights=20
has used his office’s web site to help circulate defamatory =
material against=20
us.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have included =
with this=20
letter a copy of a letter I sent to President Michael and Provost =
Pitcher a=20
week or so ago on that issue.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>The=20
incendiary essay referred to in my letter is by Drs. Quinlan and =
Ramsey, both=20
of them on the faculty of the history department at the UI.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This last weekend, Dr. =
Graden, another=20
history professor, wrote an op-ed piece for the Daily News in which he =
accused=20
us of creating a climate which would lead to the murder of gays and =
the=20
burning of synagogues. (!)</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>The actual circumstances are the reverse of this.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The businesses of some of =
our people=20
have been vandalized, and the attacks on us are growing increasingly=20
brazen.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>UI professors =
are using=20
time in class to incite students against us, and consequently, since =
the=20
response of the UI administration has been positively anemic (e.g. =
allowing=20
Raul Sanchez to use his UI web site to circulate defamatory material), =
I am=20
very concerned about what may happen this February at our =
conference.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If there is violence or =
harassment of=20
any kind (and there has already been quite a bit), it would not be =
difficult=20
at all to show how the UI nurtured the climate in which this=20
developed.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>In the best of times, I would find it problematic for =
individuals at a=20
publicly funded university to use their position to attack Christian=20
ministries for their failure to be secularists.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But in the current climate, =
for=20
<EM>anyone</EM> up there at the=20
<st1:place><st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType> of=20
<st1:PlaceName>Enron</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> to set themselves up =
as moral=20
arbiters is a bit thick.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>As you no doubt know, liberals and progressives love =
diversity until=20
they actually start getting some.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>In writing this letter, I am <EM>not </EM>asking that =
anyone’s=20
legitimate freedom of opinion or expression be restricted in any =
way.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But I am asking that the UI =
be removed=20
as the base from which they launch their mortar rounds.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am also asking that the =
Office of=20
Diversity apologize to us and to the public for this gross misuse of =
the=20
resources of a public university.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>This should go without saying, but I want to assure you that =
we have=20
nothing whatever to do with racism, white supremacy, white separatism, =
or any=20
other disease coming out of the fever swamps of the right wing.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I do not want to weary you =
with any=20
details here, but we would be happy to answer any questions you might =
have in=20
this regard.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>As I said at the beginning, I wish the occasion for this =
letter was=20
something else.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But =
there it=20
is.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I appreciate any =
attention=20
you can give to this matter,</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Cordially,</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Douglas Wilson</FONT></P>
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