[Vision2020] Is there a correct interpretation of the bible? Response

[Art Deco]

To those not interested in this thread of dialogue, the delete key is a
quick and satisfying escape.

To others:

After reading the question below from mystery being "Edna Wilmington", I see
now that my first response based on a rapid reading was in error and have
decided to make a reply when time permits.

However, I am not interested in pursuing a Socratic Dialogue, where Edna is
playing the wise and patient solon leading by cleverly designed questions,
the stupid bumbler, myself, into the open skies of knowledge.

Questions are fine and take little effort from the questioner.  Responses
take a great deal more time.  If Edna wishes to continue this discussion,
he/she/they would do well to state and argue for their own position.  They
might start by showing why they believe as asserted below that deception is
unethical.

I would hope that those interest in the issues raised in this discussion
will give their own opinion and not make this a boring discussion between
two people.  One of the goals of Vision 2020 is to encourage community
discussion on topics of interest.  The truth of religious and knowledge
claims is a topic which can over time influence people's thoughts and
consequently their actions in the community.

Wayne Fox



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Deco" <deco@moscow.com>
To: "Edna Wilmington" <edwilming@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is there a correct interpretation of the bible?
Response


> As stated in my response, I will respond to one issue at a time.
>
> If you are interested, pick a single issue.
>
> Wayne Fox
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Edna Wilmington" <edwilming@yahoo.com>
> To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is there a correct interpretation of the bible?
> Response
>
>
> > Forum Members,
> >
> > First, I want to sincerely thank Mr. Fox for his kind
> > and reasonable reply to my questions.  I agree with
> > much of what he wrote, and I'm willing, for the sake
> > of discussion, to concede some of the points where I
> > would tend to disagree.
> >
> > Second, I want to reiterate my desire to have a fair
> > and reasonable discussion.  If at any point, my
> > behaviour runs afoul of that desire, I request that
> > the members of the forum call me to account.
> >
> > After reviewing my original list of questions, I think
> > Mr. Fox's reply includes implied answers to some but
> > not all of them.  In the interest of simplicity and
> > brevity, I'm willing to set aside my original list of
> > questions. Perhaps it might be worthwhile to return to
> > them later.  In the meantime, I will comply fully with
> > Mr. Fox's ground rules and submit one question based
> > on a message of his which I will cite below.
> >
> > Here is Mr. Fox's message, posted to the V2020 Forum
> > on December 9, 2003:
> >
> > < quote >
> >
> > If the arrogant, insincere, con artistry answers below
> > by cult leader Wilson to Nick Gier's questions are a
> > sample of what's going to be served up as answers at
> > the Town Sermon on Thursday, why would anyone outside
> > of a cult member want to attend unless they are
> > masochists who wish to be abased, belittled, and
> > insulted?
> >
> > Wayne A. Fox
> >
> > < end quote >
> >
> > Assertion #1:
> >
> > The message above from Mr. Fox implies that he
> > believes that arrogance, insincerity, deception (cf.
> > "con artistry"), abasement of others, belittlement of
> > others, and insulting others are unethical behaviours.
> >
> > Assertion #2:
> >
> > Mr. Fox's belief, as stated in Assertion #1, is a
> > "knowledge claim."  That is, by implication, Mr. Fox
> > claims to know that the list of behaviours is
> > unethical.
> >
> > Proposed concessions:
> >
> > Deception, abasement of others, belittlement of
> > others, and insulting others are unethical behaviours.
> >
> > Question:
> >
> > How would Mr. Fox prove that arrogance and insincerity
> > are also unethical behaviours?
> >
> >
> > Edna Wilmington
> >
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