[Vision2020] RE: A Liberal World

[Art Deco]

The groups of whom I speak can quote scripture as well as any other to
support their beliefs.

Wayne Fox


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pkraut@moscow.com>
To: "Art Deco" <deco@moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: A Liberal World


> Anyone can call themselves Christian or say they have a Christian church
but if
> it does not hold up to what the Book tells us what a Christian is then
they are
> not Christian. It does not make what they do 'right' it only makes is self
> serving.
> PK
>
> > There are several Christian churches and societies that espouse nudism.
> > In the 50's and 60's most of the nudist colonies in southern California
> > were Christian-based organizations.
> >
> > Their reasoning is thus:  Once I have accepted Jesus Christ as my
> > personal savior and declare my love for God, I am absolved from all
> > original sin.  Among the fall-out from this belief is that one should no
> > longer feel the shame of nudity;  in fact, it would be an insult to God
> > and Jesus to do so.
> >
> > Wayne Fox
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Crysta Falcon
> >   To: vision2020@moscow.com
> >   Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:18 PM
> >   Subject: [Vision2020] RE: A Liberal World
> >
> >
> >   Mike,
> >
> >   Before this Liberal World string gets out of hand, if it hasn't
> > already, I think a return to the issue is important.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Your simple question is "What's the point to a liberal stance on
> > clothing and sexuality?"
> >
> >   I will highlight the main point of Dr. Geir's anecdote (as well as
> > Ted's of Vancouver B.C.). The choice to wear or not wear clothing, as
> > demonstrated by the previous examples, has led to less obsession over
> > sexuality. That's not to say, nor has it been proven, everyone will run
> > around topless, but rather the trend is toward fewer or at least
> > healthier obsessions with what is "behind the curtain". Furthermore, as
> > demonstrated here in Moscow, the few years that tops were optional for
> > all hardly led to rampant breast baring (sorry Carl).
> >
> >
> >
> >   To take the point further, that means less embarrassment toward
> > sexuality in societies that do not taboo exposed anatomy. This could
> > lead to a general more openness about STDs and pregnancy. (I'm
> > speculating at this point. I really have no background in sociology or
> > psychology; however. the facts kind of speak alone.) This could lead to
> > more prevention of STD's and accidental pregnancy. That's all I'm
> > saying.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Crysta Falcon
> >
> >
> >
> >   ----------------------------
> >
> >   Original Message:
> >
> >
> >
> >   Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   As I was reading Dr. Gier's letter regarding the progressive stance on
> > clothing and sexuality in Denmark, it occurred to me that there seems to
> > be a particular direction the liberal folks would like society to go.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   The question that springs to mind from all this is: If there weren't
> > any Christians getting in the way of progress and the liberal folks
> > could have everything they wanted with no restrictions, what would the
> > world look like? And specifically, what would Moscow look like?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Mike Lawyer
> >
>
>
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