[Vision2020] RE: A Liberal World

Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:18:26 -0800

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Mike,

Before this Liberal World string gets out of hand, if it hasn't already,
I think a return to the issue is important.

Your simple question is "What's the point to a liberal stance on
clothing and sexuality?" 

I will highlight the main point of Dr. Geir's anecdote (as well as Ted's
of Vancouver B.C.). The choice to wear or not wear clothing, as
demonstrated by the previous examples, has led to less obsession over
sexuality. That's not to say, nor has it been proven, everyone will run
around topless, but rather the trend is toward fewer or at least
healthier obsessions with what is "behind the curtain". Furthermore, as
demonstrated here in Moscow, the few years that tops were optional for
all hardly led to rampant breast baring (sorry Carl). 

To take the point further, that means less embarrassment toward
sexuality in societies that do not taboo exposed anatomy. This could
lead to a general more openness about STDs and pregnancy. (I'm
speculating at this point. I really have no background in sociology or
psychology; however. the facts kind of speak alone.) This could lead to
more prevention of STD's and accidental pregnancy. That's all I'm
saying.

Crysta Falcon

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Original Message:

Hello all,

As I was reading Dr. Gier's letter regarding the progressive stance on
clothing and sexuality in Denmark, it occurred to me that there seems to
be a particular direction the liberal folks would like society to go. 

The question that springs to mind from all this is: If there weren't any
Christians getting in the way of progress and the liberal folks could
have everything they wanted with no restrictions, what would the world
look like? And specifically, what would Moscow look like?

Thanks,

Mike Lawyer

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>Mike,</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Before this Liberal =
World
string gets out of hand, if it hasn&#8217;t already, I think a return to =
the
issue is important.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Your simple =
question is
&#8220;What&#8217;s the point to a liberal stance on clothing and
sexuality?&#8221; </span></font></p>

I will highlight =
the main
point of Dr. Geir&#8217;s anecdote (as well as Ted&#8217;s of =
Vancouver
B.C.). The choice to wear or not wear clothing, as demonstrated by the =
previous
examples, has led to less obsession
over sexuality. That&#8217;s not to say, nor has it been proven, =
everyone will
run around topless, but rather the trend is toward fewer or at least =
healthier obsessions
with what is &#8220;behind the curtain&#8221;. Furthermore, as =
demonstrated
here in Moscow, the
few years that tops were optional for all hardly led to rampant breast =
baring
(sorry Carl).

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

To take the point =
further, that
means less embarrassment toward sexuality in societies that do not taboo
exposed anatomy. This could lead to a general more openness about STDs =
and
pregnancy. (I&#8217;m speculating at this point. I really have no =
background in
sociology or psychology; however&#8230; the facts kind of speak alone.) =
This could
lead to more prevention of STD&#8217;s and accidental pregnancy. =
That&#8217;s
all I&#8217;m saying.

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Falcon</span></font></p>

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Message:</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Courier New"><span
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all,</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

As I was reading =
Dr. Gier's
letter regarding the progressive stance on clothing and sexuality in =
Denmark,
it occurred to me that there seems to be a particular direction the =
liberal
folks would like society to go.

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Courier New"><span
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face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

The question that =
springs to
mind from all this is: If there weren't any Christians getting in the =
way of
progress and the liberal folks could have everything they wanted with no
restrictions, what would the world look like? And specifically, what =
would Moscow
look like?

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face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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