[Vision2020] Electoral College Kills My Vote In Idaho
DonovArn@aol.com
DonovArn@aol.com
Mon, 5 Jan 2004 04:44:21 EST
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I totally agree with you Ted.
If a candidate were to win just California, Texas, New York, Florida, Ohio,
Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Georgia, and North Carolina, they
would win the election.
In other words, because of the Electoral College a candidate in a two-way
race could get less than 29 million votes out of 110 million cast and still win
the Presidency.
In a three-way race, a candidate could get only 20 million votes out of 110
million cast and still win.
Five candidates for president that received the most votes have failed to win
the election. John Adams, JQ. Adams, Hayes, B. Harrison, and G.W. Bush all
became President although they were defeated in the popular vote. Each one cau
sing as much public out cry as the last. It is just that it happens so far
between that nobody remembers the last and the situation is always rectified in the
next election.
Out of only 42 Presidents (not counting Cleveland twice) 5 (8.4%) is quiet a
few. It almost happened another time between Aaron Burr and Thomas Jefferson.
They always favor the more conservative candidate because the electoral
college favors small states that are usually more conservative than more populated
states.
People don't want to mess with the Constitution, it makes them shutter.
Although, the original writers of the Constitution had come up with FOUR electoral
college systems. It was clear that they didn't know what they were doing.
The first electoral college system made the person with the most electoral
votes President and the second most electoral Votes Vice-president. As you can
imagine this didn't work well. Today, that would make Bush President and Gore
Vice President. And Bush Sr. would, have been Clinton's VP. Carter would have
been Reagan's VP. Not very good combinations.
The second electoral college system gave each member of the college two votes
instead of one for President, in the hopes that each elector would cast one
vote for the President and one for the Presidential candidate's choice for VP.
They did just that, so it happened that the Vice President got the same amount
of votes as the candidate for President. Well, that didn't work either
because that meant that two men got the same number of votes for president and sent
the decision to the House of Representatives. Aaron Burr almost became
President when he ran with Jefferson. So they moved to change the system again.
The third system of the electoral college was set up to elect the Vice
President and President separately. The candidates would be marked for the office
they were seeking to prevent a VP candidate from being elected President. This
system didn't work either because VP and President of different parties would
get elected.
Finally, they adopted the system we have now. Which electors are given one
vote and vote for a ticket. Although they can still vote for anyone they wish
this system works because it doesn't allow for unintentional election of VP as
President, stick a Presidential candidate in as VP, or end up with a mixed
party President and VP team.
So anyone that thinks the Founding Fathers knew what they were doing when
this system was established does not know their American History. Political
parties were established and messed the whole thing up.
Donovan J Arnold
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<DIV>I totally agree with you Ted. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If a candidate were to win just California, Texas, New York, Florida, O=
hio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Georgia, and North Caroli=
na, they would win the election.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In other words, because of the Electoral College a candidate in a two-w=
ay race could get less than 29 million votes out of 110 million cast and sti=
ll win the Presidency.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In a three-way race, a candidate could get only 20 million votes out of=
110 million cast and still win.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Five candidates for president that received the most votes have failed=20=
to win the election. John Adams, JQ. Adams, Hayes, B. Harrison, and G.W. Bus=
h all became President although they were defeated in the popular vote. Each=
one causing as much public out cry as the last. It is just that it happens=20=
so far between that nobody remembers the last and the situation is always re=
ctified in the next election. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Out of only 42 Presidents (not counting Cleveland twice) 5 (8.4%) is qu=
iet a few. It almost happened another time between Aaron Burr and Thomas Jef=
ferson. They always favor the more conservative candidate because the electo=
ral college favors small states that are usually more conservative than more=
populated states. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>People don't want to mess with the Constitution, it makes them shutter.=
Although, the original writers of the Constitution had come up with&nb=
sp;FOUR electoral college systems. It was clear that they didn't know what t=
hey were doing.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The first electoral college system made the person with the most electo=
ral votes President and the second most electoral Votes Vice-president. As y=
ou can imagine this didn't work well. Today, that would make Bush President=20=
and Gore Vice President. And Bush Sr. would, have been Clinton's VP. Carter=20=
would have been Reagan's VP. Not very good combinations.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The second electoral college system gave each member of the c=
ollege two votes instead of one for President, in the hopes that each e=
lector would cast one vote for the President and one for the Presidential ca=
ndidate's choice for VP. They did just that, so it happened that t=
he Vice President got the same amount of votes as the candidate for Presiden=
t. Well, that didn't work either because that meant that two men got th=
e same number of votes for president and sent the decision to the House=
of Representatives. Aaron Burr almost became President when he ran with Jef=
ferson. So they moved to change the system again.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The third system of the electoral college was set up to elect the Vice=20=
President and President separately. The candidates would be marked for the o=
ffice they were seeking to prevent a VP candidate from being elected Preside=
nt. This system didn't work either because VP and President of different par=
ties would get elected. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Finally, they adopted the system we have now. Which electors are g=
iven one vote and vote for a ticket. Although they can still vote for a=
nyone they wish this system works because it doesn't allow for unintentional=
election of VP as President, stick a Presidential candidate in as VP,=20=
or end up with a mixed party President and VP team. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So anyone that thinks the Founding Fathers knew what they were doing wh=
en this system was established does not know their American History. Politic=
al parties were established and messed the whole thing up.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan J Arnold</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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