[Vision2020] Recent P.S. Stile Postings

Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:16:10 -0800

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Mr. Fox,

I've enjoyed many of your postings, although I disagree with your =
conclusions below.  It's not my intention to debate theology or =
hermeneutics via Vision 2020, but I wanted to offer a correction on one =
point:  the "immaculate conception" is a pre-Reformation doctrine that =
asserts that Mary, as co-Redemptrix, was conceived without original sin. =
 It's not a doctrine with which I agree, but regardless of how I see it, =
it doesn't mean the same thing as Jesus' supernatural ("spermless," if =
you insist!) conception.  Also, the geneological account of Jesus in the =
Gospel of Luke refers to the presumption on the part of the audience and =
Jesus' peers that Joseph was the bio-dad of Mary's son -- a presumption =
corrected by the Gospel accounts of Jesus' actual conception.  Of =
course, I believe in miracles and also in the veracity of Scripture =
(properly translated; inerrant only in the original documents, =
translated by scholars of the original languages who have a firm grasp =
of what is and isn't metaphor, poetry, hyperbole, simile, etc., with due =
attention to historical, cultural, religious and symbolic context -- but =
I'm clueless as to what single word would represent all of that!)  I =
recognize that we disagree on this, and I offer the above only to keep =
the conversation going.

I think we can agree that mindless, anti-intellectual and wooden reading =
of the Scriptures reduces the text to Dick-and-Jane status and makes the =
reader about as effective in her spiritual life as Sally, Spot, and Puff =
-- cute and fluffy, but wholly unable to address a world full of the =
profound.

Humbly, and still trying to understand it all myself,

keely emerine mix

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
  To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:44 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Recent P.S. Stile Postings

  Normal Folks,

  =20

  In two recent postings P.S. Stile demonstrates why his, Doug Jones', =
and Moscow, Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson's writings =
are thought of as such wonderful treasures by logic instructors.  Their =
works are so chock full of fallacies that logic students can have hours =
of knee-slapping amusement and entertainment with just a few pages of =
them.

  =20

  =20

  Stile argues that a bible based government is a desirable thing by =
quoting some prominent historic figures to that effect.  In other words =
because these figures said so, it is true.

  =20

  These figures would also tell to treat most serious internal ailments =
by the application of leeches.  Is that true also?

  =20

  =20

  Stile argues that there is a long historic tradition of belief in =
bible inerrancy.  Therefore, the doctrine is sound.

  =20

  In the past, there was a long historic tradition of believing the =
world was flat and that mental health problems were caused by the =
possession by demons.  Are these doctrines sound?

  =20

  =20

  =20

  Whether the bible is inerrant or not is a question whose answer =
creates unfortunate consequences of epic proportions for Christians.

  =20

  =20

  Biblical inerrancy simply put says:  Everything the bible asserts is =
true.

  =20

  If that is so, then the following is true:

  =20

  "When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the =
slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished.  But if the slave =
survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the =
owner's property".  (Exodus 21:20-21 NRSV) [Thanks to Ralph Nielsen]

  =20

  Do you believe that it is OK to kill another human being without just =
cause, without consequence, and with God's blessing?

  =20

  =20

  Therein lays the problem of biblical inerrancy.  If you assert that =
the bible is inerrant, then you are committed to believing hundreds of =
absurdities of which the above is only one example.  [Here's another:  =
Jesus was descended through Joseph from David and Jesus was the result =
of an immaculate (spermless) conception.]

  =20

  If you chose not to accept these absurdities, then things may be even =
worse:

  =20

  1.   If the bible contains errors, how do you systematically separate =
the true assertions (if any) from the false assertions?  What reliable, =
tested, guaranteed method could you use?  Would an all-good, =
all-powerful God fail to give you clear, unmistakable instructions on =
such an important matter (eternal goodies)?

  =20

  2.   If the bible is the word of some alleged God, and is imperfect, =
does that mean that God herself is imperfect and thus a bumbler?  This =
situation leads to hundreds of other questions, e.g.:  If God is a =
bumbler, can she deliver on the various promises made for salvation or =
will she bumble on this process also?  Will some (or all) "saints" be =
accidentally consigned to some alleged hell like an errant parcel post =
package?

  =20

  In a nut shell:  If the bible is inerrant, then many unbelievable =
absurdities result.  If the bible is not inerrant, then how can you =
reliably determine what to believe?  Would an alleged perfect or kind =
hearted God leave you in this inescapable quandary?

  =20

  Cheers,

  =20

  Wayne Fox

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
  To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:44 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Recent P.S. Stile Postings

  Normal Folks,

  =20

  In two recent postings P.S. Stile demonstrates why his, Doug Jones', =
and Moscow, Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson's writings =
are thought of as such wonderful treasures by logic instructors.  Their =
works are so chock full of fallacies that logic students can have hours =
of knee-slapping amusement and entertainment with just a few pages of =
them.

  =20

  =20

  Stile argues that a bible based government is a desirable thing by =
quoting some prominent historic figures to that effect.  In other words =
because these figures said so, it is true.

  =20

  These figures would also tell to treat most serious internal ailments =
by the application of leeches.  Is that true also?

  =20

  =20

  Stile argues that there is a long historic tradition of belief in =
bible inerrancy.  Therefore, the doctrine is sound.

  =20

  In the past, there was a long historic tradition of believing the =
world was flat and that mental health problems were caused by the =
possession by demons.  Are these doctrines sound?

  =20

  =20

  =20

  Whether the bible is inerrant or not is a question whose answer =
creates unfortunate consequences of epic proportions for Christians.

  =20

  =20

  Biblical inerrancy simply put says:  Everything the bible asserts is =
true.

  =20

  If that is so, then the following is true:

  =20

  "When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the =
slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished.  But if the slave =
survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the =
owner's property".  (Exodus 21:20-21 NRSV) [Thanks to Ralph Nielsen]

  =20

  Do you believe that it is OK to kill another human being without just =
cause, without consequence, and with God's blessing?

  =20

  =20

  Therein lays the problem of biblical inerrancy.  If you assert that =
the bible is inerrant, then you are committed to believing hundreds of =
absurdities of which the above is only one example.  [Here's another:  =
Jesus was descended through Joseph from David and Jesus was the result =
of an immaculate (spermless) conception.]

  =20

  If you chose not to accept these absurdities, then things may be even =
worse:

  =20

  1.   If the bible contains errors, how do you systematically separate =
the true assertions (if any) from the false assertions?  What reliable, =
tested, guaranteed method could you use?  Would an all-good, =
all-powerful God fail to give you clear, unmistakable instructions on =
such an important matter (eternal goodies)?

  =20

  2.   If the bible is the word of some alleged God, and is imperfect, =
does that mean that God herself is imperfect and thus a bumbler?  This =
situation leads to hundreds of other questions, e.g.:  If God is a =
bumbler, can she deliver on the various promises made for salvation or =
will she bumble on this process also?  Will some (or all) "saints" be =
accidentally consigned to some alleged hell like an errant parcel post =
package?

  =20

  In a nut shell:  If the bible is inerrant, then many unbelievable =
absurdities result.  If the bible is not inerrant, then how can you =
reliably determine what to believe?  Would an alleged perfect or kind =
hearted God leave you in this inescapable quandary?

  =20

  Cheers,

  =20

  Wayne Fox

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<DIV>Mr. Fox,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I've enjoyed many of your postings, although I disagree with your=20
conclusions below.&nbsp; It's not my intention to debate theology or=20
hermeneutics via Vision 2020, but I wanted to offer a correction on one=20
point:&nbsp; the "immaculate conception" is a pre-Reformation doctrine =
that=20
asserts that Mary, as co-Redemptrix, was conceived without original =
sin.&nbsp;=20
It's not a doctrine with which I agree, but regardless of how I see it, =
it=20
doesn't mean the same thing as Jesus' supernatural ("spermless," if you =
insist!)=20
conception.&nbsp; Also, the geneological account of Jesus in the Gospel =
of Luke=20
refers to the presumption on the part of the audience and Jesus' peers =
that=20
Joseph was the bio-dad of Mary's son -- a presumption corrected by the =
Gospel=20
accounts of Jesus' actual conception.&nbsp; Of course, I believe in =
miracles and=20
also in the veracity of Scripture (properly translated; inerrant only in =
the=20
original documents, translated by scholars of the original languages who =

have&nbsp;a firm grasp of what is and isn't metaphor, poetry, hyperbole, =
simile,=20
etc., with due attention to historical, cultural, religious and symbolic =
context=20
-- but I'm clueless as to what single word would represent all of =
that!)&nbsp; I=20
recognize that we disagree on this, and I offer the above only to keep =
the=20
conversation going.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I think we can agree that mindless, anti-intellectual and wooden =
reading of=20
the Scriptures reduces the text to Dick-and-Jane status and makes the =
reader=20
about as effective in her spiritual life as Sally, Spot, and Puff -- =
cute and=20
fluffy, but wholly unable to address a world full of the profound.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Humbly, and still trying to understand it all myself,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>keely emerine mix</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 26, =
2004 12:44=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Recent =
P.S. Stile=20
  Postings</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>Normal Folks,</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana size=3D4>In=20
  two recent postings P.S. Stile demonstrates why his, Doug Jones=92, =
and Moscow,=20
  Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson=92s writings are =
thought of as=20
  such wonderful treasures by logic instructors.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Their works are so chock =
full of=20
  fallacies that logic students can have hours of knee-slapping =
amusement and=20
  entertainment with just a few pages of them.</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana size=3D4>Stile=20
  argues that a bible based government is a desirable thing by quoting =
some=20
  prominent historic figures to that effect.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In other words because these =
figures=20
  said so, it is true.</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana size=3D4>These=20
  figures would also tell to treat most serious internal ailments by the =

application of leeches.&nbsp; =
Is that=20
 true also?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Stile=20
 argues that there is a long historic tradition of belief in bible=20
 inerrancy.&nbsp; Therefore, =
the=20
 doctrine is sound.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 In=20
 the past, there was a long historic tradition of believing the world =
was flat=20
 and that mental health problems were caused by the possession by =
demons.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; Are these doctrines =
sound?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Whether the bible is inerrant or not is a question whose =
answer creates=20
 unfortunate consequences of epic proportions for =
Christians.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Biblical inerrancy simply put says:<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; Everything the bible asserts =
is=20
 true.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 If=20
 that is so, then the following is true:
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 =93When=20
 a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave =
dies=20
 immediately, the owner shall be punished. <SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;But if the slave survives a =
day or two,=20
 there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner=92s =
property=94.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; (Exodus 21:20-21 NRSV) =
[Thanks to=20
 Ralph Nielsen]
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Do=20
 you believe that it is OK to kill another human being without just =
cause,=20
 without consequence, and with God=92s blessing?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Therein lays the problem of biblical inerrancy.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; If you assert that the bible =
is=20
 inerrant, then you are committed to believing hundreds of absurdities =
of which=20
 the above is only one example.&nbsp; =

[Here=92s another:&nbsp; =
Jesus was=20
 descended through Joseph from David and Jesus was the result of an =
immaculate=20
 (spermless) conception.]
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 If=20
 you chose not to accept these absurdities, then things may be even=20
 worse:
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana><SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">1.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
If the=20
 bible contains errors, how do you systematically separate the true =
assertions=20
 (if any) from the false assertions?&nbsp;=20
 What reliable, tested, guaranteed method could you use?<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; Would an all-good, =
all-powerful God=20
 fail to give you clear, unmistakable instructions on such an important =
matter=20
 (eternal goodies)?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 face=3DVerdana><SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">2.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
If the=20
 bible is the word of some alleged God, and is imperfect, does that =
mean that=20
 God herself is imperfect and thus a bumbler?<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; This situation leads to =
hundreds of=20
 other questions, e.g.: &nbsp;If God is=20
 a bumbler, can she deliver on the various promises made for salvation =
or will=20
 she bumble on this process also?&nbsp;=20
 Will some (or all) =93saints=94 be accidentally consigned to =
some alleged=20
 hell like an errant parcel post package?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 In a=20
 nut shell:&nbsp; If the bible =
is=20
 inerrant, then many unbelievable absurdities result.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; If the bible is not =
inerrant, then how=20
 can you reliably determine what to believe?<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; Would an alleged perfect or =
kind=20
 hearted God leave you in this inescapable quandary?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Cheers,
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <FONT=20
 size=3D4>Wayne =
Fox<o:p></o:p></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">From: <A=20
 href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> </DIV>
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A=20
 href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Thursday, February 26, =
2004 12:44=20
 PM</DIV>
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: [Vision2020] Recent =
P.S. Stile=20
 Postings</DIV>
 <DIV> </DIV>
 <DIV>
 Normal Folks,
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 In=20
 two recent postings P.S. Stile demonstrates why his, Doug Jones=92, =
and Moscow,=20
 Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson=92s writings are =
thought of as=20
 such wonderful treasures by logic instructors.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; Their works are so chock =
full of=20
 fallacies that logic students can have hours of knee-slapping =
amusement and=20
 entertainment with just a few pages of them.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Stile=20
 argues that a bible based government is a desirable thing by quoting =
some=20
 prominent historic figures to that effect.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; In other words because these =
figures=20
 said so, it is true.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 These=20
 figures would also tell to treat most serious internal ailments by the =

application of leeches.&nbsp; =
Is that=20
 true also?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Stile=20
 argues that there is a long historic tradition of belief in bible=20
 inerrancy.&nbsp; Therefore, =
the=20
 doctrine is sound.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 In=20
 the past, there was a long historic tradition of believing the world =
was flat=20
 and that mental health problems were caused by the possession by =
demons.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; Are these doctrines =
sound?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Whether the bible is inerrant or not is a question whose =
answer creates=20
 unfortunate consequences of epic proportions for =
Christians.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Biblical inerrancy simply put says:<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; Everything the bible asserts =
is=20
 true.
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 If=20
 that is so, then the following is true:
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 =93When=20
 a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave =
dies=20
 immediately, the owner shall be punished. <SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;But if the slave survives a =
day or two,=20
 there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner=92s =
property=94.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; (Exodus 21:20-21 NRSV) =
[Thanks to=20
 Ralph Nielsen]
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Do=20
 you believe that it is OK to kill another human being without just =
cause,=20
 without consequence, and with God=92s blessing?
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 Therein lays the problem of biblical inerrancy.<SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; If you assert that the bible =
is=20
 inerrant, then you are committed to believing hundreds of absurdities =
of which=20
 the above is only one example.&nbsp; =

  </SPAN>[Here=92s another:<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>Jesus was=20
  descended through Joseph from David and Jesus was the result of an =
immaculate=20
  (spermless) conception.]</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana size=3D4>If=20
  you chose not to accept these absurdities, then things may be even=20
  worse:</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D4><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">1.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>If the=20
  bible contains errors, how do you systematically separate the true =
assertions=20
  (if any) from the false assertions?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>What reliable, tested, guaranteed method could you use?<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Would an all-good, =
all-powerful God=20
  fail to give you clear, unmistakable instructions on such an important =
matter=20
  (eternal goodies)?</FONT></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D4><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">2.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>If the=20
  bible is the word of some alleged God, and is imperfect, does that =
mean that=20
  God herself is imperfect and thus a bumbler?<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This situation leads to =
hundreds of=20
  other questions, e.g.: <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>If God is=20
  a bumbler, can she deliver on the various promises made for salvation =
or will=20
  she bumble on this process also?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>Will some (or all) =93saints=94 be accidentally consigned to =
some alleged=20
  hell like an errant parcel post package?</FONT></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana size=3D4>In a=20
  nut shell:<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>If the bible =
is=20
  inerrant, then many unbelievable absurdities result.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>If the bible is not =
inerrant, then how=20
  can you reliably determine what to believe?<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Would an alleged perfect or =
kind=20
  hearted God leave you in this inescapable quandary?</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>Cheers,</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D4>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana><FONT=20
  size=3D4>Wayne=20
Fox<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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