[Vision2020] Score one for the KKK!
Tim Lohrmann
timlohr@yahoo.com
Sat, 10 Apr 2004 11:50:15 -0700 (PDT)
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Tom,
I did take the time to read the article.
The fellow DID agree not to engage in any discriminatory behavior---that alone should be plenty to accomplish the goal of "respect and tolerance."
What he would NOT agree to is to declare that he "values" behavior--in this case homosexuality--that goes against his religious beliefs.
What about the employee's right to follow his own conscience and religious practice?
One's own private thoughts have always been held legally to be up to the individual and beyond coercion.
What's next?
Requiring a public declaration that "I love Big Brother?"
It's amazing how no matter the subject--here it's the Constitutional right of conscience--some on here can still somehow relate it to their Doug Wilson obsession
TL
Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> wrote:
Mr. Lohrmann -
If you had taken the time to read the article, you would have read:
"Mr. Buonanno objected to language in a new employee handbook issued in
January 2001 that said "each person at AT&T Broadband is charged with the
responsibility to fully recognize, respect and value the differences among
all of us," including sexual orientation. He was fired after refusing to
sign a "certificate of understanding" acknowledging that he agreed to the
policy."
This in absolutely no way can be intrepreted to even suggest " . . .
demanding a public declaration of dishonesty concerning one's private
thoughts . . . "
All AT&T Broadband is requiring of their employees is to maintain a degree
of respect for and value "the differences" of all of us. I applaud AT&T for
taking such a step. Rewarding somebody financially simply because respect
and tolerance go beyond their beliefs is absolutely ignorant.
Or are you waiting for Wilson, Inc stock to go public?
Take care,
Tom Hansen
Not On The Palouse, Not Ever
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. But, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
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Behalf Of Tim Lohrmann
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:35 AM
To: Donovan Arnold
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Score one for the KKK!
Donovan,
So in your view this fellow should have been coerced into lying
about what he "respects and values?"
It seems the goal of a non-discriminatory workplace can be achieved
if, as here, the employee agrees he/she will not discriminate.
Isn't demanding a public declaration of dishonesty concerning one's
private thoughts and infringing on the right to follow the religion or
belief system of your choice is a rather draconian and unnecessary method of
achieving such a goal?
TL
Donovan Arnold wrote:
I am not even going to comment on this one. I don't think words could ever
describe my distaste for the blatant discrimination in this court ruling.
Worker opposed to gays wins suit
By Amy Fagan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
An AT&T Broadband employee who was fired after refusing to abide by company
rules that he said violated his religious beliefs about homosexuality has
won a federal court case.
Judge Marcia S. Krieger of the U.S. District Court for the District of
Colorado awarded Albert Buonanno of Denver $146,269 for lost salary, loss of
401(k) matching contributions and compensation for emotional distress in a
Friday ruling released this week.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040407-124312-3261r.htm
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<DIV>Tom,</DIV>
<DIV> I did take the time to read the article.</DIV>
<DIV> The fellow DID agree not to engage in any discriminatory behavior---that alone should be plenty to accomplish the goal of "respect and tolerance."</DIV>
<DIV> What he would NOT agree to is to declare that he "values" behavior--in this case homosexuality--that goes against his religious beliefs.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> What about the employee's right to follow his own conscience and religious practice?</DIV>
<DIV> One's own private thoughts have always been held legally to be up to the individual and beyond coercion.</DIV>
<DIV> What's next?</DIV>
<DIV> Requiring a public declaration that "I love Big Brother?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> It's amazing how no matter the subject--here it's the Constitutional right of conscience--some on here can still somehow relate it to their Doug Wilson obsession</DIV>
<DIV> TL</DIV>
<DIV> <BR> <BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Mr. Lohrmann -<BR><BR>If you had taken the time to read the article, you would have read:<BR><BR>"Mr. Buonanno objected to language in a new employee handbook issued in<BR>January 2001 that said "each person at AT&T Broadband is charged with the<BR>responsibility to fully recognize, respect and value the differences among<BR>all of us," including sexual orientation. He was fired after refusing to<BR>sign a "certificate of understanding" acknowledging that he agreed to the<BR>policy."<BR><BR>This in absolutely no way can be intrepreted to even suggest " . . .<BR>demanding a public declaration of dishonesty concerning one's private<BR>thoughts . . . "<BR><BR>All AT&T Broadband is requiring of their employees is to maintain a degree<BR>of respect for and value "the differences" of all of us. I applaud AT&T for<BR>taking such a step. Rewarding somebody financially sim!
ply
because respect<BR>and tolerance go beyond their beliefs is absolutely ignorant.<BR><BR>Or are you waiting for Wilson, Inc stock to go public?<BR><BR>Take care,<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Not On The Palouse, Not Ever<BR><BR>A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. But, a true friend will<BR>be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On<BR>Behalf Of Tim Lohrmann<BR>Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:35 AM<BR>To: Donovan Arnold<BR>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Score one for the KKK!<BR><BR><BR>Donovan,<BR>So in your view this fellow should have been coerced into lying<BR>about what he "respects and values?"<BR>It seems the goal of a non-discriminatory workplace can be achieved<BR>if, as here, the employee agrees he/she will not discriminate.<BR>Isn't demanding a public declaration of dishonesty concerning one's<BR>private!
thoughts
and infringing on the right to follow the religion or<BR>belief system of your choice is a rather draconian and unnecessary method of<BR>achieving such a goal?<BR>TL<BR><BR>Donovan Arnold <DONOVANARNOLD@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR>I am not even going to comment on this one. I don't think words could ever<BR>describe my distaste for the blatant discrimination in this court ruling.<BR><BR>Worker opposed to gays wins suit<BR><BR><BR>By Amy Fagan<BR>THE WASHINGTON TIMES<BR><BR>An AT&T Broadband employee who was fired after refusing to abide by company<BR>rules that he said violated his religious beliefs about homosexuality has<BR>won a federal court case.<BR>Judge Marcia S. Krieger of the U.S. District Court for the District of<BR>Colorado awarded Albert Buonanno of Denver $146,269 for lost salary, loss of<BR>401(k) matching contributions and compensation for emotional distress in a<BR>Friday ruling released this
week.<BR><BR>http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040407-124312-3261r.htm<BR><BR><BR><BR>Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee.<BR>Security. _____________________________________________________ List<BR>services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of<BR>the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>/////////////////////////////////////////////////////<BR><BR><BR>Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr size=1><font face=arial size=-1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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