[Vision2020] "Do Not Call" bill passes

[Tom Hansen]

I understand that charity organizations and politicians are exempt from the
No Call list.  This was reported on CNN the other day (honestly).

Tom Hansen
Moscow

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> Behalf Of Tim Lohrmann
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 6:48 PM
> To: Donovan Arnold
> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] "Do Not Call" bill passes
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>
>  Political advertising--an exercise of free speech,
> right?
>  What does it take to buy political advertising?
> Money, right?
>  Remember the last challenge to the campaign finance
> laws--Buckley v. Vallejo?
>  The Supremes held that in this context "Money is
> speech," and that curtailing the right to collect this
> sort of contribution restricted free speech because it
> curtailed the ability of political candidates and
> parties to buy advertising.
> So, in effect advertising is speech in the political
> context and may very likely be held to be free speech
> in this context as well.
>
> TL
>
>
> --- Donovan Arnold <donovanarnold@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> I agree with Dale that just because the people want it
> doesn't mean they should always get it. Especially
> when it violates the constitution. That was the reason
> that we established a constitution, to protect what is
> unpopular.
>
> However, I don't agree that telemarketing is a form of
> freedom of speech. Bottomline, it is more like
> "advertising". I don't think it is a right to
> advertise in anyway, anywhere or anyplace you wish. I
> think telephone companies should crack down on the
> telemarketers like internet companies crack down on
> spammers. I find it more annoying to getting
> telemarketers calling than spam.
>
>
> In almost every type of advertising there is some kind
> of consent by the viewer. In telemarketing there is no
> consent of any kind.
>
>
> I don't view reasonable restrictions on advertising as
> a violation of the Constitution.
>
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Dale Courtney"
>
> >To: "'Vision2020'"
>
> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] "Do Not Call" bill passes
>
> >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:30:43 -0700
>
> >
>
> >Tex chastised me:
>
> > > I think you are losing sight of one thing. The
> people have
>
> > > demanded this.
>
> > > The people are the government last I checked.
>
> >
>
> >Recall that we are a Constitutional Republic, not a
> Democracy. In fact, one
>
> >of the things that scared our Founding Fathers to
> death was a pure
>
> >democracy.
>
> >
>
> >So, while we may jump up and down and pass all the
> laws we want, we cannot
>
> >pass a law that violates the 1st Amendment without
> repealing the 1st
>
> >Amendment.
>
> >
>
> >What I *really* think is at the heart of this law is
> whether it violates the
>
> >1st Amendment. If it does (and I think it does), then
> it's unlawful -- even
>
> >if the House & Senate passed it and the President
> signed it.
>
> >
>
> >Therefore, it will be (rightfully) struck down by the
> courts.
>
> >
>
> >Best,
>
> >Dale
>
> >
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