Fw: [Vision2020] Global Warming

Troy Merrill troy1@moscow.com
Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:49:58 -0700


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Mr. Nieuwsma,

I don't believe the earth was made for man.  I do in fact believe in =
evolution.  That does not mean that I choose to shirk ethical =
obligations to aknowledge and to the extent possible minimize the impact =
I have on the environment and the other species that share this planet =
with humans.  I don't think that is an extremist point of view.

Troy Merrill

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Joshua Nieuwsma=20
To: vision=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming


The earth was made for man, not man for the earth. If you're an =
evolutionist, you have no place objecting to men taking charge of the =
earth anyhow. Survival of the fittest, right? And of course humans =
consume of the world's resources! That's like saying ocean creatures =
drink ocean water.=20

As to blaming mankind for everything:

The extreme wing of environmentalism is the animal rights movement. =
Their leading advocate, Princeton professor Peter Singer, is a fanatical =
(but wholly consistent) evolutionist. He says, 'There is no ethical =
basis for elevating membership of one particular species into a morally =
crucial characteristic. From an ethical point of view, we all stand on =
equal footing-whether we stand on two feet, four feet, or none at all.'1
In practice, however, animal-righters usually regard man as lower than =
the animals. After the Valdez oil spill which killed 30,000 birds (about =
0.1% of the area's population), some called it a worse tragedy than the =
1984 chemical leak in Bhopal, India. But this killed more than 3,000 =
people and injured 200,000 others.2 Many animal liberationists have said =
it is acceptable to use 'defective' humans in scientific tests as =
opposed to testing things on healthy animals.3

References

  1.. Singer, P. (Ed.), In Defence of Animals, Basil Blackwell Limited, =
Oxford, p. 6, 1985. Return to text.=20


  2.. Time, p. 57, 26 March 1990. Return to text.=20


  3.. Frey, R. & G., Journal of Medical Ethics 9:94-97, 1983. Return to =
text.=20
-Dr. Carl Wieland. Creation 24(1):10-17 December 2001 - February 2002


And on the idea of global warming in the same article:

Some researchers point out that analyses of actual measurements of =
surface temperatures have shown no warming trend at all.1 =20
A new satellite survey of over 2,000 glaciers indicates that most of =
them are shrinking. Thousands of images from NASA's Terra spacecraft =
were compared with aerial photos of up to 20 years ago. Most had shrunk =
'by hundreds of metres, some by several kilometres', while the lakes at =
their base have generally grown larger.2 Some think this may be part of =
a natural cycle (Greenland was much greener c. 1000 ad).

References

  1.. Vardiman, L., Earth's climate thermostat, Impact #339, Acts and =
Facts, September 2001.=20
  2.. Samuel, E., Total meltdown, New Scientist 170(2294):13, 9 June =
2001.=20
cheers!

Joshua Nieuwsma



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr. Nieuwsma,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't believe the earth was made for =
man.&nbsp; I=20
do in fact believe in evolution.&nbsp; That does not mean that I choose =
to shirk=20
ethical obligations to aknowledge and to the extent possible minimize =
the impact=20
I have on the environment and the other species that share this planet =
with=20
humans.&nbsp; I don't think that is an extremist point of =
view.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Troy Merrill</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Djoshuahendrik@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:joshuahendrik@yahoo.com">Joshua=20
Nieuwsma</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:23 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The earth was made for man, not man for the earth. If you're an=20
evolutionist, you have no place objecting to men taking charge of the =
earth=20
anyhow. Survival of the fittest, right?&nbsp;And of course humans =
consume of the=20
world's resources! That's like saying ocean creatures drink ocean water. =
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As to blaming mankind for everything:<BR></DIV>
<DIV><EM>The extreme wing of environmentalism is the animal rights =
movement.=20
Their leading advocate, Princeton professor Peter Singer, is a fanatical =
(but=20
wholly consistent) evolutionist. He says, =91There is no ethical basis =
for=20
elevating membership of one particular species into a morally crucial=20
characteristic. From an ethical point of view, we all stand on equal=20
footing=96whether we stand on two feet, four feet, or none at =
all.=92</EM><A=20
href=3D"http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v24n1_en=
vironment.asp#r7"><SUP><FONT=20
color=3D#7979b0><EM>1</EM></FONT></SUP></A></DIV>
<P class=3Dmain><EM>In practice, however, animal-righters usually regard =
man as=20
lower than the animals. After the Valdez oil spill which killed 30,000 =
birds=20
(about 0.1% of the area=92s population), some called it a worse tragedy =
than the=20
1984 chemical leak in Bhopal, India. But this killed more than 3,000 =
people and=20
injured 200,000 others.</EM><A name=3Df8></A><A=20
href=3D"http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v24n1_en=
vironment.asp#r8"><SUP><FONT=20
color=3D#7979b0><EM>2</EM></FONT></SUP></A><EM> Many animal =
liberationists have=20
said it is acceptable to use =91defective=92 humans in scientific tests =
as opposed=20
to testing things on healthy animals.</EM><A name=3Df9></A><A=20
href=3D"http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v24n1_en=
vironment.asp#r9"><SUP><FONT=20
color=3D#7979b0><EM>3</EM></FONT></SUP></A></P>
<P class=3Dmain><STRONG>References</STRONG></P>
<OL>
  <LI>
  <DIV class=3Dmain>Singer, P. (Ed.), <I>In Defence of Animals</I>, =
Basil=20
  Blackwell Limited, Oxford, p. 6, 1985. <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v24n1_en=
vironment.asp#f7"><FONT=20
  color=3D#7979b0>Return to text</FONT></A>.=20
  <P class=3Dmain></P>
  <P class=3Dmain></P></DIV>
  <LI><I>Time</I>, p. 57, 26 March 1990. <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v24n1_en=
vironment.asp#f8"><FONT=20
  color=3D#7979b0>Return to text</FONT></A>.=20
  <DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3Dmain></P>
  <P class=3Dmain></P>
  <LI><A name=3Dr9></A>Frey, R. &amp; G., <I>Journal of Medical Ethics=20
  </I><B>9</B>:94=9797, 1983. <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v24n1_en=
vironment.asp#f9"><FONT=20
  color=3D#7979b0>Return to text</FONT></A>. </LI></OL>
<DIV><EM>-Dr. Carl Wieland.&nbsp;Creation <STRONG>24</STRONG>(1):10=9617 =
December=20
2001 =97 February 2002</EM></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>And on the idea of global warming in the same article:</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><EM>Some researchers point out that analyses of =
actual=20
measurements of surface temperatures have shown no warming trend at=20
all.<SUP>1</SUP>&nbsp; </EM></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3Dmain><FONT size=3D2><EM>A new satellite survey of over 2,000 =
glaciers=20
indicates that most of them are shrinking. Thousands of images from =
NASA=92s Terra=20
spacecraft were compared with aerial photos of up to 20 years ago. Most =
had=20
shrunk =91by hundreds of metres, some by several kilometres=92, while =
the lakes at=20
their base have generally grown larger.<SUP>2</SUP> Some think this may =
be part=20
of a natural cycle (Greenland was much greener c. 1000 =
ad).</EM></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><B>References</B></FONT></P>
<OL>
  <LI><FONT size=3D2><A =
href=3D"http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/329.asp"><FONT=20
  color=3D#333366>Vardiman, L.</FONT></A>, Earth=92s climate thermostat, =
Impact=20
  #339, <I>Acts and Facts</I>, September 2001.</FONT>=20
  <LI><FONT size=3D2>Samuel, E., Total meltdown, <I>New Scientist</I>=20
  <B>170</B>(2294):13, 9 June 2001.</FONT> </LI></OL>
<P>cheers!</P>
<P>Joshua Nieuwsma</P>
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