[Vision2020] Bush is getting slipping huge in the polls/Clark/Gore/Hillary/Kerry doing well.
Donovan Arnold
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<P>Details on the polls. Bush is hurting big time all over the place. He is going to be hard pressed to bring these numbers up with more jobs being lost and the war going bad.</P>
<P><A href="http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm">http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm</A></P>
<P>Donovan J Arnold<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wesley Clark debate
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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:01:41 -0700
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<P>"And (again, for the umpteenth time) my opinion of Clark is based not on my<BR>personal experience, but on statements shared with me by friends that served<BR>under him for a longer time."</P>
<P>That is fine Mr. Hansen, if that is the case. But I think you should make your own opinions, not base them on what your firends think. You also have been unable to produce one friend that backs your claims.</P>
<P>But enough of this, it has degenerated to personal attacks instead of talking about Clark. It is clear that we will never agree on the issue. I take my opinions on the facts and the people that did serve under Clark. </P>
<P>Donovan J Arnold<BR><BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Tom Hansen" <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: "Donovan Arnold" <DONOVANARNOLD@HOTMAIL.COM>, <DMCOURTN@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>CC: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wesley Clark debate
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 07:16:35 -0700
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<DIV></DIV>>In his glorious wit (or lack thereof) Mr. Arnold stated:
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>"To explain it more clearly. Mr. Hansen was making up scrap about Clark. So
<DIV></DIV>>in turn, I was calling him on the fact that he really never served under
<DIV></DIV>>Clark. I would have just taken Mr. Hansen on his own word if he was neutral
<DIV></DIV>>on the subject. So, I was giving him scrap by bring up the facts that Clark
<DIV></DIV>>did not take over Ft. Irwin Operations until August and Mr. Hansen left in
<DIV></DIV>>September, meaning he is not there long enough to give an informed opinion
<DIV></DIV>>of Clark's abilities or inabilities."
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I was simply stating my opinion that Clark is pompous. You may have
<DIV></DIV>>construed it as a statement of fact. You apparently are struggling with
<DIV></DIV>>your ability to segregate implied statements of fact and expressed opinion.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>By "neutral" I assume that you mean for me to fall in line with you and your
<DIV></DIV>>fellow lemmings?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>And (again, for the umpteenth time) my opinion of Clark is based not on my
<DIV></DIV>>personal experience, but on statements shared with me by friends that served
<DIV></DIV>>under him for a longer time.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>At first, yoiu simply wanted evidence that I was at Fort Irwin at the time
<DIV></DIV>>Colonel Clark was Commander of Operations Group. I offered a scanned
<DIV></DIV>>picture of me (then SFC Hansen) being awarde the Army Commendation Medal by
<DIV></DIV>>Colonel Clark. I wen on to say that I do not like him based on comments by
<DIV></DIV>>my friends (see above). You (applying your infinite wit) suggested that I
<DIV></DIV>>have my friends provide you copies of their retired Army ID cards.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Now who is twisting (mangling) what, Arnold?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Tom Hansen
<DIV></DIV>>SFC, US Army (Retired)
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