[Vision2020] "Intolerance" (learning to embrace it)

David Douglas ddouglas@pacsim.com
Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:18:37 -0400


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Mr. Newsome and Mr. Hanson, (and Visionaries):

Mr. Newsome writes:

  My family and I will not patronize local businesses owned by Christ Church
members, or those on this list that post obnoxious intolerant messages. I
don't want even a portion of my money going to support this group.



Mr. Hansen writes:

  I agree with you 1,000%, Mr. Newsome.  I go to the bakery at least 2 or 3
times per week, and have done so for the past six years.  I have yet (and
probably never will) to see the insides of the bakery at the base of New St.
Andrews.


You have the ability to spend your money as you see fit.  The rightness of
any such decisions lies in the motivation and evaluation of what is "fit",
but that is a different issue. ..

However, apropos the thread title, "Intolerance", there are some (and I
suspect many) Christ Church members who are members or who shop at the
co-op--wherein they might have severe world view disagreements other patrons
and supporters.  And I doubt these same Christ church members would have any
problem with shopping at the bakery at NSA.  In this respect at least, they
appear to be more "tolerant" than you two.

But this is consistent with previous discussions: tolerance and love are
only positive virtues  if it is appropriate that the object in question be,
well, tolerated and/or loved.  So please, no more statements implying
intolerance is a bad thing (see again Mr. Newsome's message--not that I
think it is obnoxious, but it has the appearance of  intolerance).  Again,
the heart of the matter is the "goodness" of the subject in question.



Cheers,



--
David Douglas



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<DIV><EM><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#000080>Mr. =
Newsome and Mr.=20
Hanson, (and Visionaries):</FONT></SPAN></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003></SPAN></EM><EM><FONT=20
color=3D#000080></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=3D#000080>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#ffffff><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#000080><EM>Mr. Newsome=20
writes:</EM></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D348233713-17102003>My family and I will =
not&nbsp;patronize&nbsp;local=20
  businesses owned by Christ Church members, or those on this list that =
post=20
  obnoxious intolerant messages. I don't want even a portion of my money =
going=20
  to support&nbsp;this group. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P></FONT></EM><EM><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT=20
color=3D#000080></FONT></SPAN></EM>&nbsp;</P>
<P><EM><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#000080>Mr. Hansen =

writes:</FONT></SPAN></EM></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D667040413-17102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I =
agree with=20
  you 1,000%, Mr. Newsome.&nbsp; I go to the bakery at least&nbsp;2 =
or&nbsp;3=20
  times per week, and have done so for the past six years.&nbsp; I have =
yet (and=20
  probably never will) to see the insides of the bakery at the base of =
New St.=20
  Andrews.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#ffffff><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT=20
color=3D#000080><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#ffffff><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT=20
color=3D#000080><EM>You have the ability&nbsp;to spend your money as you =
see=20
fit.&nbsp; The rightness of any such decisions&nbsp;lies in the =
motivation and=20
evaluation of what is "fit",&nbsp; but that is a different=20
issue.&nbsp;..&nbsp;</EM></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#ffffff><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT=20
color=3D#000080><EM>However, apropos the thread title, "Intolerance", =
there are=20
some (and I suspect many) Christ Church members who are members or who =
shop at=20
the co-op--wherein they might have severe world view =
disagreements&nbsp;other=20
patrons and supporters.&nbsp; And&nbsp;I doubt these same Christ church =
members=20
would have any problem with shopping at the bakery at NSA.&nbsp; In this =
respect=20
at least, they&nbsp;appear to be more "tolerant" than you two.=20
</EM></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#000080><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><EM>But this =
is=20
consistent with previous discussions:&nbsp;tolerance and love are only =
positive=20
virtues&nbsp;&nbsp;if it is appropriate that the object in =
question&nbsp;be,=20
well, tolerated and/or loved.&nbsp; So please, no more =
statements&nbsp;implying=20
intolerance is a bad thing (see again Mr. Newsome's message--not that I =
think it=20
is obnoxious, but it&nbsp;has the appearance of =
&nbsp;intolerance).&nbsp; Again,=20
the heart of the matter is the "goodness" of the subject in=20
question.</EM></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#000080><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><EM></EM></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P=
>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#000080><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003><EM>Cheers,</EM></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></=
P>
<P><SPAN class=3D348233713-17102003><FONT color=3D#ffffff><SPAN=20
class=3D348233713-17102003></SPAN>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P>-- <BR>David Douglas <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
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