[Vision2020] Slavery and War in Iraq

Stephen H Bonnar piratesteve@juno.com
Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:10:35 -0700


I agree, thank you for your courage to say what I feel.

Steve

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:56:03 -0500 "amy smoucha" <asmoucha@hotmail.com>
writes:
> Rwiza,
> 
> I think there are a lot of us out here who are disturbed and 
> concerned by 
> recent posts to the listserve.  Many people are not participating in 
> the 
> debate, because it is such an endless word game, and because it's 
> hard to 
> see any way to have real communication with the Douglas Wilson 
> folks.
> 
> Some of the horrible posts about having slaves were ill-humored 
> pranks.  The 
> rest--defending or redefining American slavery as an institution 
> that has 
> been misunderstood by history--is ill-informed and dangerous 
> rhetoric.  
> Please don't take our silence as tacit approval, as many people 
> simply do 
> not want to participate in the circular arguments with local 
> theologian/historians.
> 
> Northern Idaho has a history of struggles with extremist points of 
> view, and 
> with ideologies that foster hatred--and violence--towards people of 
> color 
> and gays and lesbians.  I haven't lived here long, but what I've 
> seen 
> here--especially on this list serve--made me research that history.  
> I 
> recommend some books:  "Hate Is My Neighbor" and "Blood In the 
> Face."  I've 
> leant them out, so don't have the authors/citations handy.  Also, 
> the YWCA 
> in Lewiston is hosting a discussion about Bill Wassmuth on Oct. 29.  
> He was 
> a local leader who worked to oppose groups promoting white supremacy 
> and 
> hatred in the Northwest, especially in the Spokane-Coeur d'Alene 
> area.
> 
> I don't want to debate whether anyone is defending slavery or 
> promoting 
> violence towards those of us who are gay or lesbian--and I won't 
> debate.  I 
> do believe, however, that many people on this list and in this 
> community 
> want an inclusive, diverse and respectful community.  We have many 
> alternatives-both to Wilson's ideology and to endless debate.
> 
> Amy Smoucha
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "katetegeilwe rwiza" <rwiza@hotmail.com>
> To: gdickison@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Slavery and War in Iraq
> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:15:38 +0000
> 
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