[Vision2020] public schools & indoctrination
Dale Courtney
dmcourtn@moscow.com
Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:43:01 -0800
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Amy,
This is where you missed the boat.
There's a difference between sharing (which is a voluntary act) and coercion
(taking away private property and putting it into the collective pot). If
they wanted to teach kids to share, they would have a table at the back of
the class with all of the kids' materials labeled with their names. Then, if
children needed something, they would ask a classmate if they could borrow
it.
No, we've been well indoctrinated by the State that all property actually
belongs to the State and we're just renting it from them. And how nice of
the State to let us use its materials.
Best,
Dale
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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
Behalf Of amy smoucha
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November, 2003 23:16
To: dmcourtn@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] public schools & indoctrination
Oh my gosh, Dale, I didn't realize that in public schools these days, they
are trying to teach children to SHARE. I can't believe it. How can they do
this?!!?
If this kind of anecdote is all you and Mr. BOORtz can come up with, I'm not
as worried about support for public schools as I have been in the past.
First of all, I went to Catholic school, but we too were taught to share--to
bring money, clothes, food and gifts (our personal property) for less
fortunate folks, and to share with each other instead of allowing divisions
because some children had a lot more than others. They even made us wear
UNIFORMS, so we could all learn to be exactly alike (oh yeah, except it
didn't work).
I am glad that the public schools teach community above property, and I have
never met a child who would be upset when her supplies were placed in a
large bin so that all could share. A child would focus on the fact that he
or she now has access to the other stuff that mom didn't buy. It's only
some twisted adult that could turn the third week of third grade into a
property rights struggle.
Anyway, I for one will be glad for the indoctrination when those public
school students take care of me in a nursing home, provide me with physical
therapy even though it should be their lunchhour, fix my furnace, drive the
bus I ride, and, especially, when they work under my supervision.
And even though I do not have children and I went to private schools, I want
to pay more taxes to teach other people's children--to teach them reading,
math, history AND the values of community and of providing for each other.
Amy Smoucha
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[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>amy=20
smoucha<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 11 November, 2003 23:16<BR><B>To:</B> =
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public schools & indoctrination<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Oh my gosh, Dale, I didn't realize that in public schools these =
days, they=20
are trying to teach children to SHARE. I can't believe it. =
How can=20
they do this?!!?</P>
<P>If this kind of anecdote is all you and Mr. BOORtz can come up =
with, I'm=20
not as worried about support for public schools as I have been in the=20
past.</P>
<P>First of all, I went to Catholic school, but we too were taught to=20
share--to bring money, clothes, food and gifts (our personal =
property)=20
for less fortunate folks, and to share with each other instead of =
allowing=20
divisions because some children had a lot more than others. They =
even=20
made us wear UNIFORMS, so we could all learn to be exactly alike (oh =
yeah,=20
except it didn't work).</P>
<P>I am glad that the public schools teach community above property, =
and I=20
have never met a child who would be upset when her supplies were =
placed in a=20
large bin so that all could share. A child would focus on the =
fact that=20
he or she now has access to the other stuff that mom didn't buy. =
It's=20
only some twisted adult that could turn the third week of third grade =
into a=20
property rights struggle. </P>
<P>Anyway, I for one will be glad for the indoctrination when =
those=20
public school students take care of me in a nursing home, provide me =
with=20
physical therapy even though it should be their lunchhour, fix my =
furnace,=20
drive the bus I ride, and, especially, when they work under my=20
supervision. </P>
<P>And even though I do not have children and I went to private =
schools, I=20
want to pay more taxes to teach other people's children--to teach them =
reading, math, history AND the values of community and of =
providing=20
for each other.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Amy Smoucha</P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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