[Vision2020] Alturas again

[Donovan Arnold]

Barbara,

Thank you for answering the questions posed.

Donovan


>From: "Barbara Richardson Crouch" <edc@moscow.com>
>To: "Donovan Arnold" 
><donovanarnold@hotmail.com>,<strand@pacsim.com>,<london@moscow.com>,<vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Alturas again
>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:34:50 -0800
>
>Donovan,
>
>Based on the jobs and payroll, I say Alturas helsp the community.  Most of
>the funds used to pay Alturas employees comes from outside our economic
>base.  Companies like CC Benefits have clients taht are almost exclusively
>in the Midwest or on the East Coast.  That is money brought here from
>outside the  local economy.  Likewise, many of the companies in Alturas
>generate much of their revenue from outside of Moscow.   The Tax Allocation
>Area generates about $165,000 per year in taxes (not including the school
>district receives their levy).  I know for a fact, that five companies in
>Alturas bring in more than $1,575,000 in revenue from outside
>Moscow/Pullman - Lewiston/Clarkston.  Therefore, I believe Alturas does 
>more
>harm than good for the community.  And at a minimum it keeps this board
>active and not talking about E911; school facilities; etc.
>
>Barbara Richardson Crouch
>Latah Economic Development Council
>121 Sweet Ave.
>Moscow, Idaho 83843
>(208) 885-2832
>(208) 885-3803 (fax)
>edc@moscow.com
>www.moscow.com/edc
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
>Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:12 PM
>To: strand@pacsim.com; london@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Alturas again
>
>
>I haven't commented on this issue yet. But I do happen to think that many 
>of
>your are being intellectually dishonest.
>
>I think Mr. London raises a very good question that people should be asking
>themselves:"Does Alturus do more harm or good for the community?"
>
>I think this issue is far more complicated than either we should or
>shouldn't subsidize private businesses. Certainly all private businesses
>benefit from public dollars. We pave the roads, provide sidewalks, and 
>other
>utilities and services to almost every business that is privately owned and
>operated. We also provide a large number of paying customers with the
>University and other local, state, and federal employees that live and shop
>in the area.
>
>I agree that every time the government provides a service it damages the
>private industry. It is the balance between how much overall harm versus 
>how
>much overall help it provides that I think should be at issue. Obviously,
>the police, fire protection, postal service and education is is something
>the majority of people want provided by the government. But where we get
>into areas of controversy are to what degree we subsidize private 
>businesses
>and what businesses.
>
>Instead of addressing the issue that Mr. London asked, that should concern
>all of us, people are making arguments that are irrelevant.
>
>Who really cares if the business hurt was located on the 300th S block of
>Main or the 600th W block of A St? The issue is still the same. Are Moscow
>businesses being harmed by Alturas or not? And if so to what degree?
>
>I also disagree that Alturas provides 87 jobs and some $3+ million in
>salaries. Buildings don't provide jobs, public demand for a service or
>product does. Regardless of if Alturus is there or not, if there is a 
>demand
>and the means to provide the service at a profit someone will fill the 
>void.
>
>Now is anyone willing to address Mr. London's original concern? Does 
>Alturas
>provide a greater good or harm to the community? And why do you think it
>does?
>
>Donovan
>
> >To: "'bill london'" , "'Vision2020'"
>
> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Alturas again
> >Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:39:23 -0800
> >
> >Mr. London,
> >
> >What is wrong with some factual reporting here?
> >
> >"Four non-technology businesses have moved to Alturas from various
> >locations in Moscow - one from the down town area"
> >
> >Simple, accurate... But unfortunately, it doesn't have the emotional
> >appeal of saying they all abandoned the downtown area (as you repeatedly
> >say).
> >
> >Find any entity away from this forum that would consider 604 W A St as
> >"downtown" and I will chalk up your posts to a difference of opinion.
> >Until then, and I will call them a deliberate misrepresentation. And
> >redrawing the downtown lines is simply trying to justify the
> >misrepresentation once it was brought to light.
> >
> >Bill Strand
> >
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