[Vision2020] Alturas again

Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:53:40 -0800

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Mr. Arnold,
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I=92m not certain where I might have been =93intellectually dishonest=94 =
as
you have stated. Perhaps this comment was aimed a different direction.
But I will do my best in this response:
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Just a couple of points. You stated:
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=93Buildings don't provide jobs, public demand for a service or product
does. Regardless of if Alturus is there or not, if there is a demand and
the means to provide the service at a profit someone will fill the
void.=94
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While this may be correct from a global viewpoint, it is incorrect for
our local situation. Without Alturas, Pacific Simulation would have
moved elsewhere (as other businesses did prior to Alturas). These are
jobs removed from this community.
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You also stated:
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=93I agree that every time the government provides a service it damages
the private industry=94
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So when the universities begin providing services that are already
available in the Moscow-Pullman community are they damaging our business
sector? Just like expanding the definition of =93downtown=94 for sake of
argument, when you expand your argument to include all government
services you need to look in every foxhole.
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As for the overall benefit of Alturas =96 let=92s make sure we look at =
ALL
the aspects. Is there a tax drain as has been repeatedly stated? I =
won=92t
try to speak for everyone in Alturas, only myself. If Alturas wasn=92t
here, Pacific Simulation wouldn=92t be here and I would be living
elsewhere. So here are the tax benefits Pacific Simulation and the
Strand family provide to Moscow.
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1.	Pacific Simulation pays property taxes to Moscow School district
(I know that this has been represented in other ways, but we do pay
taxes to the schools).
2.	We have a house that we pay property taxes on.
3.	I have three kids in the Moscow school district bringing in
state tax money.
4.	We buy 95% of our yearly materials locally in Moscow including
three cars over the last 15 years (I admit to buying a camping trailer
in Sagle).
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Again, I won=92t try to speak for other Alturas businesses and their
employees. But it doesn=92t take a rocket scientist to estimate these
numbers.
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Bill Strand=20
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Mr. =
Arnold,<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

I&#8217;m not certain where I might =
have
been &#8220;intellectually dishonest&#8221; as you have stated. Perhaps =
this comment
was aimed a different direction. But I will do my best in this =
response:<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just a couple of =
points.</span></font></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> You stated:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

&#8220;Buildings don't
provide jobs, public demand for a service or product does. Regardless of =
if Alturus is there or not, if there is a demand and =
the means
to provide the service at a profit someone will fill the =
void.&#8221;<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

While this may be correct from a global viewpoint, it =
is
incorrect for our local situation. Without Alturas, Pacific Simulation =
would
have moved elsewhere (as other businesses did prior to Alturas). These =
are jobs
removed from this community.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>You also stated:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&#8220;</span></font><font size=3D2
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I agree =
that every
time the government provides a service it damages the private =
industry&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

So when the universities begin providing services =
that are already
available in the Moscow-Pullman community are they damaging our business
sector? Just like expanding the definition of &#8220;downtown&#8221; for =
sake
of argument, when you expand your argument to include all government =
services
you need to look in every foxhole.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

As for the overall benefit of Alturas &#8211; =
let&#8217;s
make sure we look at ALL the aspects. Is there a tax drain as has been
repeatedly stated? I won&#8217;t try to speak for everyone in Alturas, =
only
myself. If Alturas wasn&#8217;t here, Pacific Simulation wouldn&#8217;t =
be here
and I would be living elsewhere. So here are the tax benefits Pacific
Simulation and the <st1:place>Strand</st1:pl=
ace> family provide
to <st1:City><st1:place>Moscow</st1:pl=
ace></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<ol style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in' start=3D1 type=3D1>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list =
.5in'><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Pacific
     Simulation pays property taxes to =
</span></font><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><font
       size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Moscow</span></font></st1:Pl=
aceName><font
      size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> =
</span></font><st1:PlaceType><font
       size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>School
       district</span></font></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><font size=3D2
     face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> (I =
know that
     this has been represented in other ways, but we do pay taxes to the
     schools).<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
     size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     Arial;color:windowtext'>We have a house that we pay property taxes =
on.</span></font><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></l=
i>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
     size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     Arial;color:windowtext'>I have three kids in the =
</span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font
       size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
       =
Arial;color:windowtext'>Moscow</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
     size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     Arial;color:windowtext'> school district bringing in state tax =
money.</span></font><font
     size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></l=
i>
 <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in'><font
     size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     Arial;color:windowtext'>We buy 95% of our yearly materials locally =
in </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font
       size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
       =
Arial;color:windowtext'>Moscow</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
     size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     Arial;color:windowtext'> including three cars over the last 15 =
years (I
     admit to buying a camping trailer in Sagle).</span></font><font =
size=3D2
     face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></l=
i>
</ol>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

Again, I won&#8217;t try to speak =
for
other Alturas businesses and their employees. But it doesn&#8217;t take =
a
rocket scientist to estimate these numbers.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Bill Strand <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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