[Vision2020] What do they teach in school these days?

Luke lukenieuwsma@softhome.net
Sun, 25 May 2003 14:32:32 -0700


Mr. Fox:

> You assume what you are trying to demonstrate -- a circular argument.

Ah, you get my point too.

> Are you one of the chosen who can "encompass immense incomprehensible
nature
> of the divine"?

Although it is obviously impossible to encompass the divine nature (because
it is infinite), I understand enough to explain the world around me. It all
makes more sense to me than long-winded logical arguments.


> Love struck, stage struck, or god struck, which is the most difficult to
> cure?

I am/have been all three, and I love it.

Cordially,
Luke Nieuwsma



>
> Wayne Fox
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Moffett" <ted_moffett@hotmail.com>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Deep in the Matrix a Voice is Heard
Whispering...
>
>
> > Luke:
> >
> > All the cool people investigate cool theologies of different kinds!
With
> an
> > open mind, of course.
> >
> > God is far too vast and complex an "idea" to be understood only one way!
> > The test for humanity that the "divine" has placed before us to be open
to
> > all the various manifestations of the divine on earth.  People who
explore
> > spirituality in this manner are the chosen people.  The rest have fallen
> > into the dogmatic trap of comfortable narrow belief, beliefs which in no
> way
> > can encompass the immense incomprehensible nature of the divine.  Such
> > narrow dogmatism is an insult to the divine.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > >From: "Luke" <lukenieuwsma@softhome.net>
> > >To: "Ted Moffett" <ted_moffett@hotmail.com>, vision2020@moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Deep in the Matrix a Voice is Heard
> Whispering...
> > >Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 21:45:10 -0700
> > >
> > >Dear Visionaries:
> > >
> > > > "I have explained the nature and properties of God. I have shown
that
> he
> > > > necessarily exists, that he is one: that he is, and acts solely by
the
> > > > necessity of his own nature; that he is the free cause of all
things,
> > >and
> > > > how he is so; that all things are in God, and so depend on him, that
> > >without
> > > > him they could neither exist nor be conceived; lastly, that all
things
> > >are
> > > > predetermined by God, not through his free will or absolute fiat,
but
> > >from
> > > > the very nature of God or infinite power."
> > > > Baruch Spinoza, from Ethics (1677 AD)
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes, and I want a brand new truck too; why do I want a brand new truck?
> > >Because all the cool people have them. Who are the cool people, you
ask?
> > >Why, the ones with brand new trucks, of course.
> > >
> > >Best,
> > >Luke Nieuwsma
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just a messenger,
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
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