[Vision2020] News Article, Mental Illness, Fixation of Belief Discussion

Tim Lohrmann timlohr@yahoo.com
Wed, 21 May 2003 11:05:09 -0700 (PDT)


Ted,
    It's not like that.
    Why ya gotta condescend on da football talk?    
    Religion and War? Religion and War?
    Football IS religion and war!
    Open your eyes, dude.
          TL
    



--- Ted Moffett <ted_moffett@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Visionaries:
> 
> Really, what a waste of the vision2020 list to
> present ideas relating to the 
> tools of logic and clear thinking, which can
> facilitate sane open minded 
> discussion about religion and war, two intertwined
> social/political/economic 
> realities that threaten humanity with their links to
> irrational thinking and 
> superstition.  What a waste of time!
> 
> This list is much better served by discussions of
> football, one of the 
> essential critical cultural and political events in
> our world!
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
> >From: thansen@moscow.com
> >To: "Art Deco" <deco@moscow.com>,
> <vision2020@moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] News Article, Mental
> Illness, Fixation of Belief 
> >Discussion
> >Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 16:52:27 GMT
> >
> >And this is important to use on the Vision2020
> listserve because . . . ?
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >
> > > Re:  Immutable Laws of Logic?
> > >
> > > It may surprise you but some of the those
> conventions called the laws of
> > > logic have changed.  Parts of Aristotle's class
> logic was found to be in
> > > error by George Boole (the assumption that a
> defined class has a member
> > > implicit in one of Aristotle's argument testing
> rules).  Other more 
> >advanced
> > > concepts in the restricted predicate calculus
> and unrestricted predicate
> > > calculus have been advanced and changed in the
> last 150 years, e.g. 
> >Gödel's
> > > Proof.  Like science, logic does advance by
> rooting out false statements
> > > and/or discovering new truths.  While it is not
> immutable, it is the 
> >best we
> > > have now.
> > >
> 
>
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