[Vision2020] Status of UI Agnostic/Atheist Organization

Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com
Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:41:02 -0800


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Thank you, Mr. Arnold.  Please advise me when the "Freethinkers for Science
and Reason" website is completed.  I have always been interested in secular
humanism.

Thanks again,

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanarnold@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:18 AM
  To: thansen@moscow.com; JoeH@turbonet.com; vision2020@moscow.com
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Status of UI Agnostic/Atheist Organization






  Tom click on this link to get there
http://stuorgs.uidaho.edu/org.php?id=138931






  >From: "Tom Hansen"
  >Reply-To:
  >To: ,
  >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Status of UI Agnostic/Atheist Organization
  >Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 05:50:20 -0800
  >
  >Visionaires -
  >
  >If there is such a club, could somebody please provide a link? I have
  >search all ASUI registered clubs/organizations and could not find one
  >associated at all with agnostics/atheists.
  >
  >One questions I have: What common cause do atheists have with agnostics.
  >Atheists do not believe in a God at all, while agnostics do.
  >
  >Or is this just another funny . . .
  >
  >Not finding the humor,
  >
  >Tom Hansen
  >Moscow, Idaho
  >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
  > > Behalf Of Joe Huffman
  > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:11 PM
  > > To: vision2020@moscow.com
  > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Status of UI Agnostic/Atheist Organization
  > >
  > >
  > > Yes. My son is the President.
  > >
  > > -joe-
  > > ----
  > > http://www.joehuffman.org
  > > http://www.modernballistics.com
  > > http://www.boomershoot.org
  > > mailto:email@joehuffman.org
  > > mailto:phone@joehuffman.org (Cell phone text message 110 chars max)
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
  > > Behalf Of Ted Moffett
  > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 9:37 PM
  > > To: vision2020@moscow.com
  > > Cc: ted_moffett@hotmail.com
  > > Subject: [Vision2020] Status of UI Agnostic/Atheist Organization
  > >
  > >
  > > Luminaries:
  > >
  > > One of the illustrious vision2020 subscribers contacted me this
weekend to
  > > assert that my statement, in a vision2020 post with the subject
heading
  > > "Liberal Thinking," about a U of I agnostic/atheist organization, was
  > > "Wrong." The statement was: "The U of I had such a group formed just
  > > recently."
  > >
  > > A quick check of the U of I web page shows under registered student
  > > organizations exactly the group that I was referring to. They have an
  > > address listed under ASUI OFFICE.
  > >
  > > I saw advertising for this group in the past year and it mentioned
their
  > > defense of agnostic and/or atheist thinking. I think that if
  > > students form
  > > such an organization, considering that students are a part of the
  > > U of I and
  > > pay to support the university, it is fair to say that "The U of
  > > I had such
  > > a group formed just recently." To avoid any misunderstanding about who
  > > formed the group it would have been more specific to say "U of I
students
  > > formed such a group recently." But this is an officially registered
  > > organization at the U of I. If students are a legitimate part of the U
of
  > > I, then what I wrote is true, though lacking in specifics.
  > >
  > > I am posting this info to vision2020 with a clarification that the
group I
  > > referred to is a student organization and was not formed by the U of I
  > > administration, or the Board of Regents, or Faculty, etc.
  > >
  > > The organization is:
  > >
  > > "Freethinkers for Science and Reason"
  > >
  > > Their listing under the listings for student organizations is at:
  > >
  > > http://stuorgs.uidaho.edu/org.php?id=138931
  > >
  > > Their web page is:
  > >
  > > http://stuorgs.uidaho.edu/~freethinkers/
  > >
  > > Ted
  > >
  > >
  > >
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D670023914-18032003>Thank you, Mr.=20
Arnold.&nbsp; Please advise me when the "Freethinkers for Science and =
Reason"=20
website is completed.&nbsp; I have always been interested in secular=20
humanism.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D670023914-18032003>Thanks=20
again,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D670023914-18032003>Tom =

Hansen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Donovan Arnold=20
  [mailto:donovanarnold@hotmail.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 18, =
2003=20
  6:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B> thansen@moscow.com; JoeH@turbonet.com;=20
  vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Status of UI =

  Agnostic/Atheist Organization<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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  <DIV>
  <P><BR><BR></P></DIV>
  <P>Tom click on this link to get there&nbsp; <A=20
  href=3D"http://stuorgs.uidaho.edu/org.php?id=3D138931"=20
  target=3D_blank>http://stuorgs.uidaho.edu/org.php?id=3D138931</A></P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><BR>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Tom Hansen" <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <JOEH@TURBONET.COM>, <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Status of UI Agnostic/Atheist =

  Organization=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 05:50:20 -0800=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Visionaires -=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;If there is such a club, could somebody please provide =
a link?=20
  I have=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;search all ASUI registered clubs/organizations and =
could not=20
  find one=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;associated at all with agnostics/atheists.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;One questions I have: What common cause do atheists =
have with=20
  agnostics.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Atheists do not believe in a God at all, while =
agnostics do.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Or is this just another funny . . .=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Not finding the humor,=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Tom Hansen=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Moscow, Idaho=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
  [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Behalf Of Joe Huffman=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:11 PM=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Status of UI =
Agnostic/Atheist=20
  Organization=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Yes. My son is the President.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; -joe-=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ----=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; http://www.joehuffman.org=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; http://www.modernballistics.com=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; http://www.boomershoot.org=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; mailto:email@joehuffman.org=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; mailto:phone@joehuffman.org (Cell phone text =
message 110=20
  chars max)=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
  [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Behalf Of Ted Moffett=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 9:37 PM=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Cc: ted_moffett@hotmail.com=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: [Vision2020] Status of UI =
Agnostic/Atheist=20
  Organization=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Luminaries:=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; One of the illustrious vision2020 subscribers =
contacted=20
  me this weekend to=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; assert that my statement, in a vision2020 post =
with the=20
  subject heading=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; "Liberal Thinking," about a U of I =
agnostic/atheist=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; "Wrong." The statement was: "The U of I had such =
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; recently."=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; A quick check of the U of I web page shows under=20
  registered student=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; organizations exactly the group that I was =
referring to.=20
  They have an=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; address listed under ASUI OFFICE.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I saw advertising for this group in the past year =
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; The organization is:=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; "Freethinkers for Science and Reason"=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Their listing under the listings for student=20
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  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; http://stuorgs.uidaho.edu/org.php?id=3D138931=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Their web page is:=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; http://stuorgs.uidaho.edu/~freethinkers/=20
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