[Vision2020] enough already

Dale Courtney dale@courtneys.us
Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:36:47 -0700


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At what point is FSR and perhaps Bill London and the other moderators =
liable for providing a forum for libelous and slanderous statements?=20

The Daily News is libel for any Editorials that they print that are =
slanderous/liable. There have been legal findings that show that ISP's =
are libel for any slanderous/libel statements posted on their system.=20

I'm going to mention this to the FSR bubbas. We may well find ourselves =
shut-down until this is resolved; otherwise, FSR may find themselves up =
to their ears in legal brouhaha.

Best,
Dale
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Deacon James=20
  To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 14:13
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] enough already


  I would say that we should ban him, and if he signs up again and =
continues his silliness, it won't be that hard to spot him. Then we can =
do it again.

  Deacon James
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Dan Carscallen=20
    To: Deacon James=20
    Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:09 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] enough already


    Jack said:

    >Dear V2020 participants,

    >I've had enough of Douglas Stambler's verbal manure, especially =
with Vision 2020 his favorite spot to unload this filth. =20

    >I would like to move that Douglas Stambler be dismissed from this =
list.


    Then Deacon agreed with:

    >I second the motion. I am tired of him and his ridiculous emails.

    As long as anyone with an email is allowed in, he'll be able to =
spread his demon seed.  There is probably a way to keep him off by not =
allowing "freebie" email (aol, hotmail, yahoo, etc.), but there are too =
many people who use that as their main avenue into V2020.  It isn't that =
hard to delete them when they show up, and I don't think anyone is =
taking it seriously. =20

    DC
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>At what point is FSR and perhaps Bill London and the =
other=20
moderators&nbsp;liable for providing a forum for libelous and slanderous =

statements? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The Daily News is libel for any Editorials that they =
print=20
that are slanderous/liable. There have been legal findings that show =
that ISP's=20
are libel for any slanderous/libel statements posted on their system.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm going to mention this to the FSR bubbas. We may =
well find=20
ourselves shut-down until this is resolved; otherwise, FSR may find =
themselves=20
up to their ears in legal brouhaha.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dale</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dddjames@moscow.com =
href=3D"mailto:ddjames@moscow.com">Deacon James</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 23, 2003 =
14:13</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
enough=20
  already</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would say that we should ban him, =
and if he=20
  signs up again and continues his silliness, it won't be that hard to =
spot him.=20
  Then we can do it again.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deacon James</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dpredator75@moscow.com =
href=3D"mailto:predator75@moscow.com">Dan=20
    Carscallen</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dddjames@moscow.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:ddjames@moscow.com">Deacon James</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 23, 2003 =
2:09=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
enough=20
    already</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Jack =
said:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue =
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">&gt;Dear V2020=20
    participants,</SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">&gt;I=92ve had enough of =
Douglas=20
    Stambler=92s verbal manure, especially with Vision 2020 his favorite =
spot to=20
    unload this filth.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">&gt;I would like to move that =
Douglas=20
    Stambler be dismissed from this =
list.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Then =
Deacon agreed=20
    with:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>&gt;I second the =
motion. I am=20
    tired of him and his ridiculous emails.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>As long =
as anyone with=20
    an email is allowed in, he'll be able to spread his demon =
seed.&nbsp; There=20
    is probably a way to keep him off by not allowing "freebie" email =
(aol,=20
    hotmail, yahoo, etc.), but there are too many people who use that as =
their=20
    main avenue into V2020.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
    color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It isn't that hard to delete them when they =
show up,=20
    and I don't think anyone is taking it seriously.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000=20
  size=3D2>DC</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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