[Vision2020] Re: Predictions for August 2003
Dale Courtney
dale@courtneys.us
Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:12:53 -0700
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Ralph,
You're a hoot. Stambler is a false prophet and you falsely interpret
prophecies. Are you sure that he's not your son?
Even a child can understand the difference between a "coming in judgment"
and a personal coming. There was a coming in judgment in 70 AD. All those
prophecies you cited were fully fulfilled in the first century, just as
Christ said they would be.
But then again, your mind has already chosen to embrace what your heart
believes. Enjoy your spiritual mastu... oh, never mind.
Dale
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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
Behalf Of Ralph Nielsen
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July, 2003 09:59
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Cc: Douglas Stambler
Subject: [Vision2020] Re: Predictions for August 2003
From: Douglas Stambler <ccm_moscow@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Jul 29, 2003 8:09:43 AM US/Pacific
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Predictions For August 2003
The Month of August 2003
Too many problems in the world now. A mathematician could not solve them.
The Book of Revelation in The New Testament explains why all these events
are happening: These are the End Times, it is to be expected. Here are my
predictions for the month of August 2003.
1) There will be a nuclear war, somewhere in the world.
2) Millions of people, worldwide, will die -as if spontaneously- from
inexplicable causes.
3) 90% of all universities and colleges will cancel Fall semester 2003.
4) The East Coast of the United States will displace at least 3 million of
its current population.
5) Pullman, Washington will be totally abandoned.
6) Moscow, Idaho will be all but abandoned.
7) The United States will experience an acute gas shortage. Rural areas
will be most severely affected by this. Many rural communities will be
abandoned.
8) Train transportation will be the only possible long distance mode of
travel in the United States.
9) The Internet will crash, never to be fully functional again.
10) The United States federal government will go into hiding.
11) Crooks and wrongdoers will inexplicably confess all their law-breaking
deeds. Then, they will inexplicably die.
12) Europe will be overrun by gangs.
13) The food supply in the Northwest will be secure, only if food is only
grown in greenhouses. All other farming will not yield crops.
14) All foreign nationals in the United States will be urged to permanently
leave the United States. Violence against foreign nationals will
unfortunately become a regular occurrence.
15) Christ will spare no one, who has been slated for dying.
16) Millions of married couples will find themselves inexplicably and
permanently separated.
17) All those who fornicate after receiving a personal sign from God not to,
will perish within 7 months.
How prediction works
Prediction is not at all like science. Either the prediction comes to pass,
or it doesn't. There is no in-between. In science, there is much room for
error. But when predicting, there is no room for error: All predictions
must come true in order for anyone predicting to have any credibility.
Either the person predicting is 100% accurate, or they are 100% incorrect.
There is no middle ground when predictions are made, because too much is at
stake. Statistics are useless, because all predictions are based on the
future, and only marginally on the past.
Rapidly uncontrollable world events like the civil war in Liberia; the
inhumane conquest of the Iraqi people by the United States; the almost
random death, worldwide, that happens daily. All of our lives will soon be
radically changed by the "unpredictability" of world events. But it is not
that these events are unpredictable, but rather that they are unstoppable.
Any Christian knows that The End Times are upon us. Death, then, will
become an ordinary, daily occurrence for young and old, all around the
world. Without prediction, humanity has much less of a chance to survive.
Only God-given prediction can help humans organize in these very deadly and
unimaginable times.
The perfection of God's timing
Only God knows precisely when an event should happen. For example, if God
assigns a specific time when He will communicate some specific information
to human beings, then that information will not be given before or after the
appropriate time. All ongoing revelation from God is given to human beings
with divine perfection, and that always means "at the right time."
When 1 + 1 does not equal 2
How is it that predictions come to pass in non-linear fashion? That's the
nature of prediction. True, predicted events happen as if in a whirlwind
that has no beginning, no ending and seemingly comes out of nowhere.
Predicted events can be subtle or obvious, and they always defy logic. Only
people with a decent amount of faith can understand and appreciate the true
characteristics of predicted events.
In Christ,
Douglas Stambler
(Moscow, Idaho)
Here are some predictions that were made over 1900 years ago that were
supposed to have taken place within a generation or two after they were
made:
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
kingdom. Matt. 16:28
But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall
not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:27
See Acts 2:15-17 in which Peter invokes a prophecy by Joel to
explain why a gathering of diverse peoples understood each other's
language. This outpouring of God's Spirit was a sign that the end
was near.
But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both
they that have wives be as though they had none; 1 Cor. 7:29
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at
hand. Phil. 4:5
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are
alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent [precede]
them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from
heaven... Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
together with them in the clouds...
1 Thess. 4:15-16
God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son... Heb.
1:1-2
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the
world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to
put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Heb. 9:26
For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and
will not tarry. Heb. 10:37
Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord...
stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth
nigh...behold, the judge standeth before the door. James 5:7-9
But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and
watch unto prayer. 1 Peter 4:7
Christ...was manifest in these last times for you,... 1 Peter 1:19-
20
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that
antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby
we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to
shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;...
Rev. 1:1
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this
prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the
time is at hand.
Rev. 1:3
Behold, I come quickly. Rev. 3:11
And he said unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this
book: for the time is at hand... He which testifieth these things
saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Rev. 22:10, 20.
But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for
verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of
Israel, till the Son of man be come. Matt 10:23
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Nixon: "I am not a crook."
Bush I: "Read my lips -- no new taxes."
Jesus: "I am coming soon." (Rev. 3:11)
Ralph Nielsen
Moscow
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ralph=20
Nielsen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 29 July, 2003 09:59<BR><B>To:</B>=20
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> Douglas =
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[Vision2020] Re: Predictions for August 2003<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><B>From: </B>Douglas Stambler=20
<ccm_moscow@yahoo.com><BR><B>Date: </B>Tue Jul 29, 2003 =
8:09:43 AM=20
US/Pacific<BR><B>To: </B>vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:=20
</B>[Vision2020] Predictions For August 2003<BR><BR><BR><B>The Month =
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August 2003</B><BR> <BR>Too many problems in the world =
now. A=20
mathematician could not solve them. The Book of Revelation in =
The New=20
Testament explains why all these events are happening: These are the =
End=20
Times, it is to be expected. Here are my predictions for the =
month of=20
August 2003.<BR> <BR>1) There will be a nuclear war, somewhere =
in the=20
world.<BR>2) Millions of people, worldwide, will die -as if =
spontaneously-=20
from inexplicable causes.<BR>3) 90% of all universities and colleges =
will=20
cancel Fall semester 2003.<BR>4) The East Coast of the United States =
will=20
displace at least 3 million of its current population.<BR>5) =
Pullman,=20
Washington will be totally abandoned.<BR>6) Moscow, Idaho will be =
all but=20
abandoned.<BR>7) The United States will experience an acute gas=20
shortage. Rural areas will be most severely affected by =
this. =20
Many rural communities will be abandoned.<BR>8) Train transportation =
will be=20
the only possible long distance mode of travel in the United =
States.<BR>9)=20
The Internet will crash, never to be fully functional again.<BR>10) =
The=20
United States federal government will go into hiding.<BR>11) Crooks =
and=20
wrongdoers will inexplicably confess all their law-breaking =
deeds. =20
Then, they will inexplicably die.<BR>12) Europe will be overrun by=20
gangs.<BR>13) The food supply in the Northwest will be secure, only =
if food=20
is only grown in greenhouses. All other farming will not yield =
crops.<BR>14) All foreign nationals in the United States will be =
urged to=20
permanently leave the United States. Violence against foreign=20
nationals will unfortunately become a regular occurrence.<BR>15) =
Christ will=20
spare no one, who has been slated for dying.<BR>16) Millions of =
married=20
couples will find themselves inexplicably and permanently =
separated.<BR>17)=20
All those who fornicate after receiving a personal sign from God not =
to,=20
will perish within 7 months.<BR> <BR><B>How prediction=20
works</B><BR> <BR>Prediction is not at all like science. =
Either=20
the prediction comes to pass, or it doesn't. There is no=20
in-between. In science, there is much room for error. =
But when=20
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true in=20
order for anyone predicting to have any credibility. Either =
the person=20
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is no=20
middle ground when predictions are made, because too much is at =
stake. =20
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future, and=20
only marginally on the past.<BR> <BR>Rapidly uncontrollable =
world=20
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Iraqi=20
people by the United States; the almost random death, worldwide, =
that=20
happens daily. All of our lives will soon be radically changed =
by the=20
"unpredictability" of world events. But it is not that these =
events=20
are unpredictable, but rather that they are unstoppable. Any =
Christian=20
knows that The End Times are upon us. Death, then, will become =
an=20
ordinary, daily occurrence for young and old, all around the =
world. =20
Without prediction, humanity has much less of a chance to =
survive. =20
Only God-given prediction can help humans organize in these very =
deadly and=20
unimaginable times.<BR> <BR><B>The perfection of God's=20
timing</B><BR> <BR>Only God knows precisely when an event =
should=20
happen. For example, if God assigns a specific time when He =
will=20
communicate some specific information to human beings, then that =
information=20
will not be given before or after the appropriate time. All =
ongoing=20
revelation from God is given to human beings with divine perfection, =
and=20
that always means "at the right time."<BR> <BR><B>When 1 + 1 =
does not=20
equal 2</B><BR> <BR>How is it that predictions come to pass in=20
non-linear fashion? That's the nature of prediction. =
True,=20
predicted events happen as if in a whirlwind that has no beginning, =
no=20
ending and seemingly comes out of nowhere. Predicted events =
can be=20
subtle or obvious, and they <U>always</U> defy logic. Only =
people with=20
a decent amount of faith can understand and appreciate the true=20
characteristics of predicted events.<BR> <BR> <BR>In=20
Christ,<BR>Douglas Stambler<BR>(Moscow, =
Idaho)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Here=20
are some predictions that were made over 1900 years ago that were =
supposed to=20
have taken place within a generation or two after they were=20
made:<BR><BR>Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which =
shall<BR>not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in=20
his<BR>kingdom. Matt. 16:28<BR><BR>But I tell you of a truth, there be =
some=20
standing here, which shall<BR>not taste of death, till they see the =
kingdom of=20
God. Luke 9:27<BR><BR>See Acts 2:15-17 in which Peter invokes a =
prophecy by=20
Joel to<BR>explain why a gathering of diverse peoples understood each=20
other's<BR>language. This outpouring of God's Spirit was a sign that =
the=20
end<BR>was near.<BR><BR>But this I say, brethren, the time is short: =
it=20
remaineth, that both<BR>they that have wives be as though they had =
none; 1=20
Cor. 7:29<BR><BR>Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord =
is=20
at<BR>hand. Phil. 4:5<BR><BR>For this we say unto you by the word of =
the Lord,=20
that we which are<BR>alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord =
shall not=20
prevent [precede] <BR>them which are asleep. For the Lord himself =
shall=20
descend from<BR>heaven... Then we which are alive and remain shall be =
caught=20
up<BR>together with them in the clouds...<BR>1 Thess.=20
4:15-16<BR><BR>God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his =
Son...=20
Heb.<BR>1:1-2<BR><BR>For then must he often have suffered since the =
foundation=20
of the<BR>world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared =
to<BR>put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Heb. 9:26<BR><BR>For =
yet a=20
little while, and he that shall come will come, and<BR>will not tarry. =
Heb.=20
10:37<BR><BR>Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the=20
Lord...<BR>stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord=20
draweth<BR>nigh...behold, the judge standeth before the door. James=20
5:7-9<BR><BR>But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore =
sober,=20
and<BR>watch unto prayer. 1 Peter 4:7<BR><BR>Christ...was manifest in =
these=20
last times for you,... 1 Peter 1:19-<BR>20<BR><BR>Little children, it =
is the=20
last time: and as ye have heard that<BR>antichrist shall come, even =
now are=20
there many antichrists; whereby<BR>we know that it is the last time. 1 =
John=20
2:18<BR><BR>The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him,=20
to<BR>shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to=20
pass;...<BR>Rev. 1:1<BR><BR>Blessed is he that readeth, and they that =
hear the=20
words of this<BR>prophecy, and keep those things which are written =
therein:=20
for the<BR>time is at hand.<BR>Rev. 1:3<BR><BR>Behold, I come quickly. =
Rev.=20
3:11<BR><BR>And he said unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy =
of=20
this<BR>book: for the time is at hand... He which testifieth these=20
things<BR>saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord=20
Jesus.<BR>Rev. 22:10, 20.<BR><BR>But when they persecute you in this =
city,=20
flee ye into another: for<BR>verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have =
gone=20
over the cities of<BR>Israel, till the Son of man be come. Matt=20
=
10:23<BR><BR>************************************************************=
*********************************<BR>Nixon:=20
"I am not a crook."<BR>Bush I: "Read my lips -- no new =
taxes."<BR>Jesus: "I am=20
coming soon." (Rev. 3:11)<BR><BR>Ralph=20
Nielsen<BR>Moscow<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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