[Vision2020] Video games

Dan Carscallen predator75@moscow.com
Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:16:34 -0700


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Messageit always comes back to the schools, don't it . . . ;^)

DC

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dale Courtney=20
To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Video games


Dan,

Well, a point of agreement is always a place to start.=20

Now, let's move that point of agreement one step further. I'm going to =
substitute "video games" with education/schooling:=20
  When these questions arise, I always revert back to the question: =
whose jurisdiction is it? In the case of children's education, it is the =
jurisdiction, authority, and responsibility of the parents to deal with =
such matters.=20
  "Society" deals with the consequences of both good parenting and bad =
educational choices. However, it is not up to society to legislatively =
intervene because of a few bad apples.=20
  The typical knee-jerk reaction is to object to a few and to pass =
legislation that forces parents to conform to our preferences.=20
  However, in a "free" society with freedoms and responsibilities, the =
authority needs to remain with the governing jurisdiction.=20
So the jurisdiction, authority, and responsibility of education rests =
with the parents -- for good or bad. Does that mean everyone must =
homeschool? Clearly not; but the responsibility lies with the =
foundational jurisdiction -- for good or ill.=20

Thoughts? =20

Best,
Dale
  -----Original Message-----
  From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] =
On Behalf Of Dan Carscallen
  Sent: Tuesday, 08 July, 2003 12:47
  To: Dale Courtney; vision2020@moscow.com
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Video games


  That's what I was gonna say . . . or I said, or something like that . =
. .

  (tongue firmly planted in cheek, but amazingly agreeing with Dale on =
something)
  DC

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dale Courtney=20
  To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:40 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Video games


  When these questions arise, I always revert back to the question: =
whose jurisdiction is it? In the case of children, it is the =
jurisdiction, authority, and responsibility of the parents to deal with =
such matters.=20

  "Society" deals with the consequences of both good parenting and bad =
parenting. However, it is not up to society to legislatively intervene =
because of a few bad apples.=20

  The typical knee-jerk reaction is to object to a few and to pass =
legislation that forces parents to conform to our preferences.=20

  However, in a "free" society with freedoms and responsibilities, the =
authority needs to remain with the governing jurisdiction.=20

  Best,
  Dale
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>it always =
comes back to the=20
schools, don't it . . . ;^)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>DC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddale@courtneys.us href=3D"mailto:dale@courtneys.us">Dale =
Courtney</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:55 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Video games</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D552455019-08072003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2>Dan,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D552455019-08072003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D552455019-08072003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Well,=20
a point of agreement is <U>always</U> a place to start. =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D552455019-08072003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D552455019-08072003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Now,=20
let's move that point of agreement one step further. I'm going to =
substitute=20
"video games" with education/schooling: </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#800000><SPAN=20
  class=3D933404118-08072003>When these questions arise, I always revert =
back to=20
  the question: whose jurisdiction is it? In the case of <FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff>children<SPAN class=3D552455019-08072003>'s=20
  education</SPAN></FONT>, i</SPAN><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003>t is =
the=20
  jurisdiction, authority, and responsibility of the parents to deal =
with such=20
  matters. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#800000><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D933404118-08072003>"Society" deals with the consequences of =
both good=20
  parenting and bad&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D552455019-08072003><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff>educational choices</FONT></SPAN>. </SPAN><SPAN=20
  class=3D933404118-08072003>However, it is not up to society to =
legislatively=20
  intervene because of a few bad apples. =
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>The=20
  typical knee-jerk reaction is to object to a few and to pass =
legislation that=20
  forces parents to conform to our preferences. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#800000=20
  size=3D2>However, in&nbsp;a "free" society with freedoms and =
responsibilities,=20
  the authority needs to remain with the governing jurisdiction.=20
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D552455019-08072003>So the=20
jurisdiction, authority, and responsibility of education rests with the =
parents=20
-- for good or bad. Does&nbsp;that mean everyone must homeschool? =
Clearly not;=20
but the responsibility lies with the foundational jurisdiction -- for =
good or=20
ill.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D552455019-08072003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D552455019-08072003>Thoughts? &nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#800000><FONT size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Best,</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT face=3D"Vladimir Script"=20
size=3D5>Dale</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On =
Behalf=20
  Of </B>Dan Carscallen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 08 July, 2003=20
  12:47<BR><B>To:</B> Dale Courtney; =
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  Re: [Vision2020] Video games<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>That's what =
I was gonna=20
  say . . . or I said, or something like that . . .</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>(tongue =
firmly planted in=20
  cheek, but amazingly agreeing with Dale on something)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>DC</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Ddale@courtneys.us href=3D"mailto:dale@courtneys.us">Dale =
Courtney</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:40 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Video games</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#800000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000=20
  size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D933404118-08072003>When=20
  these questions arise, I always revert back to the question: whose=20
  jurisdiction is it? In the case of children, i</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003>t is the =
jurisdiction,=20
  authority, and responsibility of the parents to deal with such =
matters.=20
  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D933404118-08072003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D933404118-08072003>"Society" deals with the consequences of =
both good=20
  parenting and bad parenting. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#800000=20
  size=3D2><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003>However, it is not up to =
society to=20
  legislatively intervene because of a few bad apples. =
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>The=20
  typical knee-jerk reaction is to object to a few and to pass =
legislation that=20
  forces parents to conform to our preferences. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#800000=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#800000=20
  size=3D2>However, in&nbsp;a "free" society with freedoms and =
responsibilities,=20
  the authority needs to remain with the governing jurisdiction.=20
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D933404118-08072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#800000=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#800000><FONT size=3D2><FONT=20
  face=3DArial>Best,</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT face=3D"Vladimir Script"=20
  size=3D5>Dale</FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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