[Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply

[Tom Hansen]

Mr. Courtney -

I did not state that you needed a degree to retire from the service as an
officer.  I said:

"24 years (bare minimum to have retired from the service as an officer,
allowing for the minimum of 4 years to get your degree so that you can ENTER
the service as an officer)"

You even quoted it correctly.  The bottom line, Mr. Courtney, is that you
are required to have graduated from college with a degree before you ENTER
the service as a commissioned officer.  This has now been mentioned to you
three times (plus once where you quoted me).

Assuming that you did not attend college while you were attending high
school and allowing for dual concurrent assignments as a submariner and
instructor, (something which is extremely doubtful), this makes you 42.

Then comes the 7 years at the Silicon Valley.  You claim that at the time
you were working inland in the Silicon Valley in California, you were also
on active duty as a submariner.  Come on, Mr. Courtney, I wasn't born
yesterday.

I am 50 years old, retired from the Army, and have friends that retired from
the Navy (a couple were submariners).  Didn't you think that I would conduct
a little research before I made any accusations?

Take care,

Tom Hansen
SFC, US Army (Retired)
UI '96

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> Behalf Of Dale Courtney
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:08 PM
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply
>
>
> Tom wrote:
>
> > Believeing that you entered college immediately after high
> school, entered
> > the service immediately after graduation, went to work in the Silicon
> Valley
> > immediately after retirement, commenced your career in teaching
> immediately
> > upon completion of seven years in Silicon Valley, and completed 17 years
> in
> > the teaching profession this morning, this makes you at least 66 years
> old.
>
> Math and logic are clearly not a strength of yours.
>
> It must be a strict mistrust of the left to think that everyone is lying.
> How odd. In psychology, that's called "projection".
>
> First, many categories (working in Silicon Valley and being
> stationed in the
> military) are not mutually exclusive. Second, only if you are an academy
> grad does your time in college count (and only after the 20 year
> point) --
> for retirement purposes; otherwise, ROTC college time doesn't count --
> unless you were recruited in college by the nuclear submarine
> force that is
> in exceptionally high demand; then college time *does* count
> towards the 20
> years and retirement.
>
> I'm 43 years old and spent 20 years in the US Navy submarine
> force. I taught
> graduate level Electrical Engineering and Computer Systems classes when I
> wasn't underwater.
>
> Best,
> Dale Courtney
>
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