[Vision2020] RE: North Polk & Rodeo property
Sande Schlueter
sandes@uidaho.edu
Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:52:11 -0800
Normally just a by-stander in the many conversations on v2020; this
conversation however required a clarification. The property in question on
North Polk & Rodeo that was purchased by the City of Moscow was purchased
from the Schlueter Family of Genesee. The Schlueters were approached by the
City of Moscow to purchase this piece of property in order to develop a park
in the side of town that was growing and developing rapidly. The name of
this park is to be the Lola Clyde Memorial Park as per the agreement between
the Schlueters and the City of Moscow because of my relationship to Lola
Clyde growing up.
Skyler Schlueter
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1. Re: Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde (david sarff)
2. RE: Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde (John Danahy)
3. Re: Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde (WMSteed@aol.com)
4. Re: Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde (Linda Pall)
5. Re: Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde (hayfields@moscow.com)
6. Re: Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde (Brent Capener)
7. parks - correction to last post (Brent Capener)
8. Palouse Prairie Foundation (PPF) meeting (david sarff)
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Message: 1
From: "david sarff" <davesway@hotmail.com>
To: london@moscow.com, onewildearth@hotmail.com
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com, cbainbridge@ci.moscow.id.us
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:59:48 +0000
I think its Great. Although its location may influence future concerns.
I do wonder if a western bypass off of the scheduled 10-A project wouldnt
go right through the middle of it or just beside it.
There is a park in Spokane placed next to the freeway. Its extraordinarily
noisy.
Will the development of this park create greater pressure for an eastern
bypass
?
Dave Sarff
>
>I understand that this will be a city park in the future...one much like
>Mountain View Park with play fields and picnic area.
>BL
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Message: 2
From: "John Danahy" <jdanahy@turbonet.com>
Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>, <cbainbridge@ci.moscow.id.us>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:08:51 -0800
Hmmm! I thought the western bypass was already decided. A done deal.
Shouldn't the city be aware of the western bypass and the implications
before purchasing the land?
John Danahy
jdanahy@turbonet.com
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
I think its Great. Although its location may influence future concerns.
I do wonder if a western bypass off of the scheduled 10-A project
wouldnt
go right through the middle of it or just beside it.
There is a park in Spokane placed next to the freeway. Its
extraordinarily
noisy.
Will the development of this park create greater pressure for an eastern
bypass
?
Dave Sarff
>
>I understand that this will be a city park in the future...one much
like
>Mountain View Park with play fields and picnic area.
>BL
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Message: 3
From: WMSteed@aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:42:32 EST
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
To: davesway@hotmail.com, london@moscow.com, onewildearth@hotmail.com
CC: vision2020@moscow.com, cbainbridge@ci.moscow.id.us
In a message dated 1/22/03 1:00:55 PM, davesway@hotmail.com writes:
<< I do wonder if a western bypass off of the scheduled 10-A project
wouldnât
go right through the middle of it or just beside it.
There is a park in Spokane placed next to the freeway. Itâs
extraordinarily
noisy.
Will the development of this park create greater pressure for an eastern
bypassâĤ? >>
Quite prpbably not. The projected possible location for a western-by pass is
on top of a ridge line probably a half mile, or more, south of the park
area.
Walter Steed
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Message: 4
From: "Linda Pall" <lpall@moscow.com>
To: "John Danahy" <jdanahy@turbonet.com>
Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>, <cbainbridge@ci.moscow.id.us>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:21:05 -0800
Dear David, John and Visionaries:
When the purchase was made of the land for the park adjacent to Palouse
River Drive, issues of western bypass/eastern bypass were generally
discussed but no firm decisions were in the works at that time. Actual
highway alignments, as you know, are quite a long way down the line in the
highway planning process. This land, if my memory serves me well, is not
immediately affected by highway plans.
I agree, David, that locating a park immediately adjacent to a busy highway
or (?!?) freeway is not the best alternative. And John, the City examined
planning, trnasportation and other relevant concerns in making the 'buy'
decision for this property.
Since road plans change and evolve (and budgets self destruct apparently), I
believe the City was prudent to obtain this beautiful piece of the Palouse.
I'm hoping to be there at the ribbon cutting of "Clyde Park" and celebrate
the Clyde family contributions to our community, in particular the wonderful
personality and historian, the late Lola Clyde. If at a later time we have
to modify our general park plans or even relocate the site (which I do not
think would be the case), we have enough flexibility to do that.
All the best,
Linda Pall
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Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
>
> Hmmm! I thought the western bypass was already decided. A done deal.
> Shouldn't the city be aware of the western bypass and the implications
> before purchasing the land?
>
> John Danahy
> jdanahy@turbonet.com
>
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> On Behalf Of david sarff
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:00 PM
> To: london@moscow.com; onewildearth@hotmail.com
> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com; cbainbridge@ci.moscow.id.us
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
>
>
> I think it's Great. Although its location may influence future concerns.
> I do wonder if a western bypass off of the scheduled 10-A project
> wouldn't
> go right through the middle of it or just beside it.
> There is a park in Spokane placed next to the freeway. It's
> extraordinarily
> noisy.
> Will the development of this park create greater pressure for an eastern
>
> bypass.?
> Dave Sarff
>
>
> >
> >I understand that this will be a city park in the future...one much
> like
> >Mountain View Park with play fields and picnic area.
> >BL
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Message: 5
To: vision2020@moscow.com
From: hayfields@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:17:36 GMT
> So let me get this straight, A local,county highway commissioner has just
negotiated a land deal with a government entity, with whom he works closely.
And (correct me if I have this wrong) under the apparent terms, the City
will
pay the taxes on a piece of land, (or rather the City taxpayers will
pay)that
they may not be able to use for years. Mr. Clyde however, will continue to
farm and keep the profits from the farming. Just exactly what "maintenance"
would be done under this agreement?
Like Garrett, just curious.
Heather
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Message: 6
From: "Brent Capener" <cape@moscow.com>
To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Farm Lease Agreement with Sherman Clyde
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:25:21 -0800
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As a subscriber of two newspapers and a taxpayer on two separate =
properties, I'm curious as to how I didn't have a clue my city was =
considering this purchase until after it was a done deal. How much did =
'we' pay for it?
If it is to be called "Clyde Park", then what will we call the earlier =
parkland purchase from the Clyde family (NE corner of Polk and Empire =
Lane)? Aren't we on a long-term agenda to "find" the money to develop =
the Joseph St. park into ballfields, etc? How many ballfields are =
enough? If we really are going to provide everything for everyone, how =
about an ATV track and a shooting range (my preferences)? How many =
cities the size of Moscow maintain 45 acre parks? If the city would =
like to purchase my house, could I please live in it rent and tax free =
as long as I maintain it?
OK, I'm getting a little sarcastic. I strongly believe in future =
planning. The point is that the city reps need to be sensitive to the =
wants of the community, and more informative about large-scale, =
long-term purchases of this sort. Even though us commoners can be a =
real pain (this letter for example) the key word here is represent.
Along with Garrett and Heather:
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Whoops, a little relapse into sarcasm. Sorry
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Message: 7
From: "Brent Capener" <cape@moscow.com>
To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:07:16 -0800
Subject: [Vision2020] parks - correction to last post
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City owned land for Clyde Park #1 is at NE corner of Polk and Rodeo Dr., =
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Message: 8
From: "david sarff" <davesway@hotmail.com>
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:39:57 +0000
Subject: [Vision2020] Palouse Prairie Foundation (PPF) meeting
The next scheduled Palouse Prairie Foundation meeting.
Thursday February 6, 2003 in room 2B of the Latah County Courthouse.
http://www.palouseprairie.org/
The mission of the Palouse Prairie Foundation is to promote preservation and
restoration of native Palouse Prairie ecosystems in Latah and Whitman
Counties (in Idaho and Washington), through public awareness, education,
literature resource, encouraging responsible local seed production, and
acting as a leader or consultant in Palouse Prairie restoration efforts.
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