[Vision2020] Alarming Information about our fellow citizens

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Our Pledge of Allegiance pretty much sums it up.  " . . .  and to the
republic for which it stands . . . "

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

-----Original Message-----
From: Garrett Clevenger [mailto:onewildearth@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:03 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Alarming Information about our fellow citizens

Democracy and republic as defined by http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary
<http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary> 

Democracy:

1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a
government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised
by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually
involving periodically held free elections
2 : a political unit that has a democratic
<http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=democratic>
government
3 capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the
U.S.
4 : the common people especially when constituting the source of political
authority
5 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges

Republic:

1 a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who
in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation)
having such a form of government b (1) : a government in which supreme power
resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected
officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to
law (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government c
: a usually specified republican
<http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=republican>
government of a political unit <the French Fourth Republic>

But do you really think we have a republic or a democracy?

Considering the last presidential election sham, the numerous election fraud
throughout the years of our country, the corrupting role of money in
politics, the deceit of many who have been elected, the lies of government,
the propaganda campaigns and the like, I don't think we live in a true
republic or democracy.

Until sincere campaign finance reform occurs, we'll always have a government
much less than its potential, and we'll be the victims of such.

Garrett Clevenger

Message: 3
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:07:14 -0800 (PST)
From: John Harrell <
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Alarming Information about our fellow citizens
To: Melynda Huskey <
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8c3b4b2d74e076756ed78d9b046a&mailto=1&to=mghuskey@hotmail.com&msg=MSG1044648
338.34&start=1888927&len=16997&src=&type=x> mghuskey@hotmail.com>,
vision2020 <
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Hello Melynda Huskey,

This doesn't surprise me. But it is a real shame.

Never underestimate the ignorance of the American people (me included.)

Here is another one where people on the street were asked a very simple 
question: What form of government do we have?

<http://65.54.244.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=5066d0029adc344bd0c3548e3c
f2a6e3&lat=1044661831&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2etaxfreedom101%2ecom%2fa
v%2ftruthv%2eram> http://www.taxfreedom101.com/av/truthv.ram

Cheers!
John Harrell

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<DIV>Our 
Pledge of Allegiance pretty much sums it up.&nbsp; " . . .&nbsp; and to the 
republic for which it stands . . . "</DIV>
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<DIV>Tom 
Hansen</DIV>
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 <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Garrett Clevenger 
 [mailto:onewildearth@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 
 4:03 PM To: vision2020@moscow.com Subject: Re: 
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 Democracy and republic as defined by <A 
 href="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary">http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary</A>
 Democracy:
 1 a : government by the people; 
 especially : rule of the majority b 
 : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the 
 people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of 
 representation usually involving periodically held free 
 elections 2 : a political unit that has a 
 <A 
 href="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&amp;va=democratic">democratic</A> 
 government 3 capitalized : the 
 principles and policies of the Democratic party in the 
 U.S. 4 : the common people especially 
 when constituting the source of political authority 5 
 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions 
 or privileges 
 Republic:
 1 a (1) : a government having a chief of state who 
 is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a 
 political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government b (1) 
 : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens 
 entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives 
 responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political 
 unit (as a nation) having such a form of government c : a 
 usually specified <A 
 href="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&amp;va=republican">republican</A> 
 government of a political unit &lt;the French Fourth 
 Republic&gt; 
 But do you really think we have a republic or a democracy?
 Considering&nbsp;the last presidential election sham, the numerous election 
 fraud throughout the years of our country, the corrupting role of money in 
 politics, the deceit of many who have been elected, the lies of government, 
 the propaganda campaigns and the like, I don't think we live in a true 
 republic or democracy.
 Until sincere campaign finance reform occurs, we'll always have a 
 government much less than its potential, and we'll be the victims of such.
 Garrett Clevenger
 Message: 3 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:07:14 -0800 (PST) From: John 
 Harrell &lt;<A target=_top 
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 Re: [Vision2020] Alarming Information about our fellow citizens To: Melynda 
 Huskey &lt;<A target=_top 
 href="http://by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F000000004&amp;a=2b9a8c3b4b2d74e076756ed78d9b046a&amp;mailto=1&amp;to=mghuskey@hotmail.com&amp;msg=MSG1044648338.34&amp;start=1888927&amp;len=16997&amp;src=&amp;type=x">mghuskey@hotmail.com</A>&gt;, vision2020 
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 Melynda Huskey, This doesn't surprise me. But it is a real 
 shame. Never underestimate the ignorance of the American people (me 
 included.) Here is another one where people on the street were asked a 
 very simple question: What form of government do we have? <A 
 target=_blank 
 href="http://65.54.244.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&amp;lah=5066d0029adc344bd0c3548e3cf2a6e3&amp;lat=1044661831&amp;hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2etaxfreedom101%2ecom%2fav%2ftruthv%2eram">http://www.taxfreedom101.com/av/truthv.ram</A> Cheers! John 
 Harrell "What are we doing to our Home?!:(" 
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