[Vision2020] Interesting Report by S&P on Michigan's Govt Schools

Dan Carscallen predator75@moscow.com
Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:01:17 -0800


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Dale, I'm not worried about how the public schools (yes, PUBLIC schools) =
answer those questions.  They'll get information at school, those =
questions will get answers at home.  It doesn't matter what schools they =
go to, public or private, religious or secular, parents have the biggest =
part in teaching children.

I just hope they come out with a better understanding of math than I did =
. . .

DC





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I wrote:
> "But you do have religious indoctrination. The primary questions being
> addressed by virtually any general form of educating children (past =
and
> present) are profoundly religious. At the very least the list includes =
the
> following:
>
> Where did I (the student) come from?
> What relationship do I have with all these other people?
> How did the world come to be here?
> What is authority and who wields it?
> How should I respond to the rules of behavior authority presents to =
me?
> What is my purpose in life?
> Is there something, anything "out there" greater than me to which I =
must
> answer?"

Tom replied:
> Religious indoctrination is not found in asking the questions, but how
those
> questions are answered.

Agreed, to a point. Although the questions asked (or not asked!) are
filtered thru the worldview being imposed. Because of a certain =
worldview,
certain questions are "out of bounds" or may not be asked or addressed.

> Religious indoctrination is not found in asking the questions, but how
those
> questions are answered.

So, Tom, how *should* the government schools answer these questions?

Dale Courtney
Moscow, Idaho

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<DIV><BR></DIV>I wrote:<BR>&gt; "But you do have religious =
indoctrination. The=20
primary questions being<BR>&gt; addressed by virtually any general form =
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educating children (past and<BR>&gt; present) are profoundly religious. =
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very least the list includes the<BR>&gt; following:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
Where did I=20
(the student) come from?<BR>&gt; What relationship do I have with all =
these=20
other people?<BR>&gt; How did the world come to be here?<BR>&gt; What is =

authority and who wields it?<BR>&gt; How should I respond to the rules =
of=20
behavior authority presents to me?<BR>&gt; What is my purpose in =
life?<BR>&gt;=20
Is there something, anything "out there" greater than me to which I =
must<BR>&gt;=20
answer?"<BR><BR>Tom replied:<BR>&gt; Religious indoctrination is not =
found in=20
asking the questions, but how<BR>those<BR>&gt; questions are=20
answered.<BR><BR>Agreed, to a point. Although the questions asked (or =
not=20
asked!) are<BR>filtered thru the worldview being imposed. Because of a =
certain=20
worldview,<BR>certain questions are "out of bounds" or may not be asked =
or=20
addressed.<BR><BR>&gt; Religious indoctrination is not found in asking =
the=20
questions, but how<BR>those<BR>&gt; questions are answered.<BR><BR>So, =
Tom, how=20
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