[Vision2020] Re:Nate Wilson's offline reply to What's the difference?
debismith@moscow.com
debismith@moscow.com
Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:49:09 GMT
>As you can see, the promise to publically post Nate's unsolicited personal
messages has been ineffective. I'm somewhat surprised at the nastiness
disguised as humor, but it re-enforces for me what these folks are about.
Debi R-S
Debi,
> I'm really not sure who else to turn to. I know you've said you
> can't keep a secret, but that's a risk I'm willing to take. I'm
> desperate. Every morning I get up and drag myself to a breakfast of
> slippy eggs. My wife will not stop making me slippy eggs. She insists
> that I don't really want eggs that are fully cooked and that slippy eggs
> wake me right up. I know my own mind darn it. I think. If I have to eat
> another slippy egg, I think I might, well, I think I might not eat them
> again, and then she'll leave me. Do you know a good marital counsellor?
> Would you be willing to counsel us? I know that's a lot to ask, and you
> never invited me to send you this letter, but I'm at the end of my
> tether. Could you at least tell me where the nearest needle exchange is?
>
> NDW
>
> debismith@moscow.com wrote:
>
> >>You bet I did, Nate, and am doing it again with yours. From past
experience
> >>
> >>
> >with folks who disagree with my public and open sentiments, it is best to
nip
> >in the bud the harrassment that can take place when folks decide to respond
> >outside the discussion forum. Yes, we have been asked in the past (and asked
> >one another) to take our religious discussions off-line. Seems to me,
however,
> >that Doug Wilson and his followers have assisted in keeping this discussion
> >open and on-line. Something about goose, gander, and sauce comes to
mind....I
> >don't want to talk to any of Doug's folks privately, and we have nothing to
say
> >to one another without witnesses. Please pass it on---I'm publically stating
> >here that if you don't want unsolicited personal posts you send to me
appearing
> >in V2020, don't send 'em. I promise to only respond publically, having
nothing
> >to say to you that I don't want others to hear.
> >Cordially,
> >Debi
> >
> >You're taking an offline email public? Slick work.
> >
> >
> >>NDW
> >>
> >>debismith@moscow.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Lucy, I don't know you, care what your beliefs are, or hate you. You were
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >not
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>even on my radar until you chose to contact me personally---I would never
do
> >>>that to you without an invitation (which you have now given me). If you
> >>>
> >>>
> >review
> >
> >
> >>>my posts, you will see I have not used the dreaded "H" word--I don't even
> >>>
> >>>
> >hate
> >
> >
> >>>Doug. I dislike the things he stands for, I dislike his tactics, and I
> >>>
> >>>
> >dislike
> >
> >
> >>>that folks like you feel it necessary to contact me on his behalf. Nowhere
> >>>
> >>>
> >in
> >
> >
> >>>my posts did I indicate that I would force you to wear the letter "I".
That
> >>>
> >>>
> >was
> >
> >
> >>>Doug's suggestion. A careful reading of posts would make your tirade more
> >>>credible and accurate. Try to do that prior to e-mailing me again. In
fact,
> >>>don't e-mail me personally, and I won't e-mail you. Let's keep the
> >>>
> >>>
> >discussion
> >
> >
> >>>on the V2020 list---we have nothing private to say to one another. But,
> >>>
> >>>
> >thanks
> >
> >
> >>>for the "heads up" regarding how you feel about those who dissent with
Doug.
> >>>Debi Robinson-Smith
> >>>
> >>>Ms. Smith,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I don't know you, never spoken with you, and can't
> >>>>remember why you hate me. You're certainly free
> >>>>to *hate* all things Wilson; however, I find it rather
> >>>>strange that you would hate an entire group of people
> >>>>without even a discussion. To me, it smacks of ignorance.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm not fond of the KKK because of their hatred of
> >>>>people of color, their ignorance, their bitterness,
> >>>>and because they lump people together based on
> >>>>the color of their skin. I don't hate them. I pity them
> >>>>and I take every opportunity to educate them. It's
> >>>>difficult because they tend to be ignorant and small
> >>>>minded. And like you...their mind is solidly closed.
> >>>>Could you perhaps tell me how you differ
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>from them in your hatred of all things Wilson...including
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>me? I don't intend to wear an "I" to satisfy your hatred
> >>>>of me. If you wouldn't mind walking around with a sheet
> >>>>on, it would help so I could keep the kids away from
> >>>>you. I'd rather they didn't learn your brand of hate.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm not fond of hypocrites either.
> >>>>
> >>>>Lucy Zoe Jones
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> >>>>On Behalf Of debismith@moscow.com
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:07 AM
> >>>>To: vision2020@moscow.com; drosmith@wsu.edu
> >>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Summons to Town Hall
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks again for the repeated invite, Doug. I still decline. I do not
> >>>>believe you have
> >>>>anything new to add--yes, my mind is firmly closed in regards to any
> >>>>additional
> >>>>defense you might have, or "answers" to any questions you might be
> >>>>asked. I may be
> >>>>a "liberal" (whatever that means), but I am capable of recognizing the
> >>>>difference
> >>>>between a discussion and another Wilson Rant. I've seen you in action
> >>>>before, and
> >>>>am simply not interested in a repeat of the refrain "Jesus loves Doug,
> >>>>this I know
> >>>>because his bible tells him so".
> >>>>
> >>>>Those of us who are circulating the Not In Our Town sign-up sheet are
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>from a variety
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>of groups and interests, all of whom find your intoerance for those not
> >>>>of your
> >>>>persuasion both stupid and annoying. I do owe you a note of thanks,
> >>>>however.
> >>>>Through your creative revision of history you have inadvertantly
> >>>>introduced me to a
> >>>>whole new set of friends. While you have been busily scrambling to
> >>>>explain yourself
> >>>>in every newspaper on the Palouse, I have been enjoying the company of:
> >>>>Christians of many stripes, Buddhists, Wiccans, Pagans, Lesbians, Gays,
> >>>>Historians,
> >>>>Feminist Women of Color, Birkenstock Wearing Old Hippies, and Balding
> >>>>Homer
> >>>>Simpson Look-Alikes.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm having great time, and all without your narrow Biblical
> >>>>interpretations, your
> >>>>"standards", and especially without your "comedy". I'm finding the
> >>>>company of these
> >>>>folks full of laughter, intelligent conversation, creativity, and joy.
> >>>>
> >>>>So, thanks for being the narrow, rigid, lock-stepping bunch you are---it
> >>>>introduced me
> >>>>to a delightful crowd!
> >>>>
> >>>>By the way, your personal selection of the letter "I" to mark your group
> >>>>is not a bad
> >>>>idea. I'm not in favor of this type of singling-out behavior, but
> >>>>whatever blows your
> >>>>skirt up! It might be handy to be able to identify, through the letter
> >>>>"I" for "idiotic", your
> >>>>entire group.
> >>>>
> >>>>Avoiding you like the plague, having lots of laughs (partly at your
> >>>>expense),
> >>>>
> >>>>Debi Robinson-Smith
> >>>>
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