[Vision2020] WHEN DID DALE COURTNEY TAKE THE LONG WAY?

Douglas Stambler ccm_moscow@yahoo.com
Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:38:23 -0700 (PDT)


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WHEN DID DALE COURTNEY TAKE THE LONG WAY?

Dale Courtney <dale@courtneys.us> wrote:In today's Daily News from Jack Wenders -- to the point as always. 

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     Your knee-jerk haste to defend Moscow's teachers' pay neglects some facts.
      Research shows that only 4-5 years of teacher experience contributes to student learning. Experience beyond that has no payoff except in pay.
   Pedagogy credits don't contribute to learning. Advanced degrees are productive only at the secondary level and in the subject being taught. Credits are used mostly to climb the salary grid.
   Moscow's teachers receive $380.76 per month in current benefits. That's an additional $4569.12 annually you never hear about.
   Moscow's teachers receive at least an additional 18.45% of salary in deferred retirement benefits.
      The total compensation of the average Moscow teacher is not the $42,000 you suggest, but $55,892. Not bad for a 180 day work year, while those who pay for it work 240 days.
    Starting compensation is $34,391 per year, a long way from the $25k salary you quote. How much does the DN pay starting reporters with the same education? Half?
        74 (45%) of Moscow's teachers are in the single top cell of the salary grid where total compensation is $62,358 per year. 123 (75%) are in the top five highest paying longevity cells. No private enterprise has such an unproductive, bloated, top heavy compensation structure.
      Twelve MSD administrators make over $80,000 in annual compensation; three make over $100,000.
   Comparable private schools have an average teachers' salary of 60-65% of those in public schools. About half of this differential is because comparable public school teachers are paid about 20-25% more, and the rest is because private schools operate with a much more efficient mix of teachers. This is why US public schools have a per pupil cost of about 50% greater than comparable private and foreign schools. Compared to the latter, about one-third of US public school expenditures is simply waste.
 
    Jack Wenders
    Moscow

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Best,
Dale
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We must also read the poets, acquaint ourselves with histories, study and peruse the masters and authors in every excellent art, and by way of practice, praise, expound, emend, criticize and confute them; we must argue every question on both sides, and bring out on every topic whatever points can be deemed plausible.  Cicero, The Making of an Orator
 
Dale M. Courtney
Lecturer in Information Systems
Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA 
MCSE/MCDBA, Information Architect
phone:(831)214-4353; dmcourtn@moscow.com


 



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WHEN DID DALE COURTNEY TAKE THE LONG WAY?
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Dale Courtney &lt;dale@courtneys.us&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=305005723-31072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In today's Daily News from Jack Wenders -- to the point as always. </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Your knee-jerk haste to defend Moscow's teachers' pay neglects some facts.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Research shows that only 4-5 years of teacher experience contributes to student learning. Experience beyond that has no payoff except in pay.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Pedagogy credits don't contribute to learning. Advanced degrees are productive only at the secondary level and in the subject being taught. Credits are used mostly to climb the salary grid.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Moscow's teachers receive $380.76 per month in current benefits. That's an additional $4569.12 annually you never hear about.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Moscow's teachers receive at least an additional 18.45% of salary in deferred retirement benefits.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The total compensation of the average Moscow teacher is not the $42,000 you suggest, but $55,892. Not bad for a 180 day work year, while those who pay for it wor!
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 days.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Starting compensation is $34,391 per year, a long way from the $25k salary you quote. How much does the DN pay starting reporters with the same education? Half?<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 74 (45%) of Moscow's teachers are in the single top cell of the salary grid where total compensation is $62,358 per year. 123 (75%) are in the top five highest paying longevity cells. No private enterprise has such an unproductive, bloated, top heavy compensation structure.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Twelve MSD administrators make over $80,000 in annual compensation; three make over $100,000.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Comparable private schools have an average teachers' salary of 60-65% of those in public schools. About half of this differential is because comparable public school teachers are paid about 20-25% more, and the rest is because private schools operate with a much more efficient mix of teachers. This is why US public schools have a pe!
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 cost of about 50% greater than comparable private and foreign schools. Compared to the latter, about one-third of US public school expenditures is simply waste.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jack Wenders<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Moscow</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Vladimir Script" color=#0000ff size=5>Dale</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4><BR>----------<BR><B><FONT color=#000099><EM>We must also read the poets, acquaint ourselves with histories, study and peruse the masters and authors in every excellent art, and by way of practice, praise, expound, emend, criticize and confute them; we must argue every question on both sides, and bring out on every topic whatever points can be deemed plausible</EM>.&nbsp; Cicero, <U>The Making of an Orator</U></FONT></B></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4>Dale M. Courtney</FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4>Lecturer in Information Systems<BR>Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4>MCSE/MCDBA, Information Architect<BR>phone:(831)214-4353; <A href="mailto:dmcourtn@moscow.com">dmcourtn@moscow.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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