[Vision2020] The future of this list

Don Kaag dkaag@turbonet.com
Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:54:58 -0700


Bill:

Is "Mongerer" even a word?  Perhaps instead of censoring Douglas, we 
should all chip in and get him a good Dictionary or a Thesaurus...

Don Kaag

On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 03:57 PM, Bill London wrote:

> V2020 subscribers:
>     Though I have resisted this for months, I guess it is time to
> consider an question that could radically change the character and
> direction of this community list.
>     The Question---What are we going to do with Douglas Stambler?
>     I pose this question because of the world-record 13 postings of his
> that showed up on V2020 in the last few hours, including some nasty
> comments like: "Doug Wilson: Equal Opportunity Hate-Mongerer"
>     I also think it is time to bring this issue forward since Walter
> Steed posted the following question; "Hey, First Step, can you block 
> the
> non-emails from Moscowgarbage???"
>     First Step is very generous to host this list at no charge.  That
> gift keeps V2020 (which has no money, account, corporate filings,
> hierarchy, etc) this remarkably open, free, and totally public forum.  
> I
> think of it as that famous soap box in Hyde Park in London--a place
> where anyone can stand and speak his/her piece.  Without a filter, a
> moderator, a controller, etc.  Anyway, First Step has the technical
> ability to deny access to the V2020 list to anyone.  But First Step 
> does
> not want to exercise that kind of control, since it is not "their"
> list.  It is in fact, our list.  It belongs to its members.  The 400 or
> so subscribers--us, you and me.
>     So, the question about what we are going to do with Douglas 
> Stambler
> is a question we have to ask ourselves.
>     What do you think?  Should we block his posts to this list?
>     To do so would change the nature of this forum.  This list was
> created 10 years ago as an open discussion list.  Compared to other 
> such
> lists nationwide (most cities have one or more), V2020 has been very
> successful.  The membership is a cross-section of the community,
> including elected officials, city employees, etc.  The communication on
> the list is unfiltered, and therefore occasionally rude, mean-spirited,
> and wonderful.
>     Enough of this rhapsody.  The question remains: has Douglas 
> Stambler
> been such an egregious nuisance (with his recent barrage of posts, his
> offensive comments, and his attempted "unsubscribing") that he should 
> be
> the first person we ask First Step to block from our list?
>     I hope you all consider the question and respond to the list.
> Thanks BL
>
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