[Vision2020] The future of this list

[Troy Merrill]

I'm opposed to censoring anyone.  (but if i weren't i'd have a pretty long
list)

Troy Merrill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Hansen" <tomh@FNA.fsn.uidaho.edu>
To: <london@moscow.com>; <vision2020@moscow.com>
Cc: <moscowgarage@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The future of this list


> Bill -
>
> As much as Douglas Stambler's postings lack social value or amusement (for
> that matter), he still has the right to join in.  A simpler answer to this
> "problem" would be for those that find him to be a nuisance (and count me
in
> on that list) to ignore him.  Once he finds that nobody is responding to
his
> ilk, he will disappear.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill London [mailto:london@moscow.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:58 PM
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> Cc: moscowgarage@yahoo.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] The future of this list
>
>
> V2020 subscribers:
>     Though I have resisted this for months, I guess it is time to
> consider an question that could radically change the character and
> direction of this community list.
>     The Question---What are we going to do with Douglas Stambler?
>     I pose this question because of the world-record 13 postings of his
> that showed up on V2020 in the last few hours, including some nasty
> comments like: "Doug Wilson: Equal Opportunity Hate-Mongerer"
>     I also think it is time to bring this issue forward since Walter
> Steed posted the following question; "Hey, First Step, can you block the
> non-emails from Moscowgarbage???"
>     First Step is very generous to host this list at no charge.  That
> gift keeps V2020 (which has no money, account, corporate filings,
> hierarchy, etc) this remarkably open, free, and totally public forum.  I
> think of it as that famous soap box in Hyde Park in London--a place
> where anyone can stand and speak his/her piece.  Without a filter, a
> moderator, a controller, etc.  Anyway, First Step has the technical
> ability to deny access to the V2020 list to anyone.  But First Step does
> not want to exercise that kind of control, since it is not "their"
> list.  It is in fact, our list.  It belongs to its members.  The 400 or
> so subscribers--us, you and me.
>     So, the question about what we are going to do with Douglas Stambler
> is a question we have to ask ourselves.
>     What do you think?  Should we block his posts to this list?
>     To do so would change the nature of this forum.  This list was
> created 10 years ago as an open discussion list.  Compared to other such
> lists nationwide (most cities have one or more), V2020 has been very
> successful.  The membership is a cross-section of the community,
> including elected officials, city employees, etc.  The communication on
> the list is unfiltered, and therefore occasionally rude, mean-spirited,
> and wonderful.
>     Enough of this rhapsody.  The question remains: has Douglas Stambler
> been such an egregious nuisance (with his recent barrage of posts, his
> offensive comments, and his attempted "unsubscribing") that he should be
> the first person we ask First Step to block from our list?
>     I hope you all consider the question and respond to the list.
> Thanks BL
>
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