<html><body><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000; font-size:12pt;"><div>Hey Harry,</div><div><br></div><div>I've seen quite a few questionable fees being charged as well, but not quite to the petty level that you have mentioned. In support of the charges, I would argue that any of the tenant's actions that result in a cost to the Landlord should be legitimately reimbursable. For example, if the dog poops on the law and there's no consequence, then no harm no foul. But if the HOA fines the owner, then I would argue the tenant should be obligated to pay for that. Or if the a/c company charges a missed appointment fee and the tenant agreed to be there, but wasn't, then seems fair.</div><div><br></div><div>However, in many examples, the property managers are just trying to pad their pockets at the tenant's expense with potential of causing landlords to lose tenants over bogus and petty charges. I see similar moves in the title world with realtors charging "processing fees" or "transaction fees" or "admin fees" which is nothing more than a scheme to charge an extra $300-$400 for doing their job. </div><div><br></div><div>My understanding is the commission and property management fee is their compensation, so trying to charge tenants for being human leaves a bad taste (not necessarily illegal).</div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: "times new roman", times;"><span style="font-family: times new roman,times;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000000;">Cary</span></span></span></div><div style="font-family: "times new roman", times;"><span style="font-family: times new roman,times;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Cary P. Sabol, Esq. J.D. (2001), LLM (2009)</strong></span></span></div><div style="font-family: "times new roman", times;"><span style="font-family: times new roman,times;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Law Offices of Cary P. 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Subject: [RPPTL Leasing Committee] Fines and Fees<br>
From: RPPTL Real Estate Leasing Committee<br>
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Date: Wed, January 27, 2021 6:00 pm<br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">There’s a big move nationwide to put all kinds of fines and fees in a residential lease.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Don’t pick up your dog’s poop, a fine. Miss an appointment with a repair person, a fee. Tamper with the smoke detectors, a fine. Leave your garbage cans out, a fine. HOA writes a letter to the owner, a fine. Parking violation, a fine. Bring a pet on the property, a fine. We have to serve you a Three Day, a fee. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">What do you all feel about the legality of fees and fines?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Florida law does not really address them and rarely have I seen them in residential leases except for late fees and bad check fees.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">There are a few states that specifically disallow fees and fines. The whole property management industry seems to be pushing the envelope and clients ask me WHY something is not legal and I’m basically at a loss.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">How would you argue for or against a fee or fine in court? I can’t stand them but the clients really push it. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Harry</span><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:red"> </span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">LAW OFFICES OF <br>HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.<br>PH: 1 800 253 8428<br>FAX: 1 800 367 9038<br>"Serving the Property Management Professional"<br>Website: </span></b><span style="color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.evict.com/"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">www.evict.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> <br>Email: </span></b><span style="color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:harry@evict.com"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">harry@evict.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" align="left" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;margin-left:6.75pt;margin-right:6.75pt;margin-bottom:7.75pt"><tbody><tr style="height:19.9pt"><td width="16%" rowspan="2" style="width:16.3%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt;height:19.9pt"><table class="MsoTableGrid" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="360" style="width:3.75in;border-collapse:collapse;border:none"><tbody><tr><td width="64" valign="top" style="width:48.3pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:9.0pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:margin;mso-element-top:4.55pt;mso-height-rule:exactly"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heist-Weisse-Wolk-PA/343965575625870"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="37" height="37" style="width:.3854in;height:.3854in" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.png@01D6F4D6.4699C6B0" wbeuser="csabol@sabollaw.com"></span></a><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="296" valign="top" style="width:221.7pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:9.0pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:margin;mso-element-top:4.55pt;mso-height-rule:exactly"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br></span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Visit us on Facebook</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td><td width="82%" valign="bottom" style="width:82.74%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt;height:19.9pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr style="height:19.85pt"><td width="82%" valign="bottom" style="width:82.74%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt;height:19.85pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%;mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:9.0pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:margin;mso-element-top:4.55pt;mso-height-rule:exactly"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. 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