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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Seems to me that the essence of provisions like this is that someone be made aware of the other party’s position, so I would lean toward an interpretation that
effects that intent. But, again, I think it’s clear as mud, and far from obvious. I have no dog in this fight since I don’t deal with this. Just giving a neutral perspective.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:51 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So if they sent it out and it took 5 days to receive, they did not “get” the notice within 30 days? Suppose the tenant had the mail forwarded and it took 10
days to “get”?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The attorney’s position seems absurd but the law does say “give” not “send”.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I can’t find one case probably because it seems so obvious.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gregory R. Haney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee; RPPTL Landlord Tennant Committee<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] [RPPTL LandTenCL] Timing for Notice of Intention to Impose Claim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I don’t really practice in the residential realm, so I don’t have similar war stories, but I disagree that it is an unreasonable position to interpret give as
“deliver” instead of “send”. If they didn’t receive it, how did you “give” it to them?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">That said, refusal to claim the certified letter should not count as failure to “give” in any instance, but have fun wording that. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Bottom line is that “give” is a horribly ambiguous word to use in this instance and it should be fixed to be clear one way or the other.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTenCL] [RPPTL LandTen] Timing for Notice of<br>
Intention to Impose Claim<br>
From: "Harry Heist" <<a href="mailto:harry@evict.com">harry@evict.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, October 10, 2019 11:00 am<br>
To: "'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'" <<a href="mailto:landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org">landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Upon the vacating of the premises for termination of the lease, if the landlord does not intend to impose a claim on the security deposit, the landlord shall have 15 days to return
the security deposit together with interest if otherwise required, or the landlord shall have 30 days to
</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">give</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> the tenant written notice by certified mail to the tenant's last known mailing address of
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cary P. Sabol, Esq.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Timing for Notice of Intention to Impose Claim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Timing for Notice of Intention to Impose Claim<br>
From: "Harry Heist" <<a href="mailto:harry@evict.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">harry@evict.com</span></a>><br>
Date: Thu, October 10, 2019 9:38 am<br>
To: "'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'" <<a href="mailto:landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">landten@lists.flabarrpptl.org</span></a>><br>
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Deposit within 30 days.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Our position is that it must be MAILED by certified mail within the 30 days.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Anyone have any cases on this? It is something so obvious but I don’t know of any cases.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">He is being relentless on this. This is the first time in 30 years I have an attorney taking this position and he is not backing down.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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