<div dir="ltr"><div>We accept therapist notes, and if someone gave me an LCSW note (after having only 30 seconds of research), I'd probably also accept it. In my experience, most people can go to their local primary care physician and get an ESA doctors note for a $30 copay, so it's not worth fighting about internet therapists versus local therapists. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Admittedly, I have only had 1 person attempt using an internet ESA note, and it wasn't signed by a doctor or therapist or anybody for that matter. On that website, a doctor's note was a $60 upcharge. If it's a huge problem and you think a person is acting fraudulently in violation of the statute, consider filing a police report. </div><div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_3208972993250621324m_-115310201012661261gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-weight:normal"><b><font color="#666666"><br></font></b></span></b></div><div><b style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-weight:normal"><b><font color="#666666">--</font></b></span></b></div><div><b style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-weight:normal"><b><font color="#666666">James Glover</font></b><div><div><div><b><span style="font-weight:normal"><div style="display:inline"><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);display:inline">office: </div><div style="display:inline"><font color="#1155cc">772.888.0865</font></div></div></span></b><br></div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-weight:normal"><div><div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-weight:normal"><div style="display:inline"><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);display:inline">cell: <a value="+19045146807" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">954.254.0436</a></div></div></span></b></div></div></div></span></b></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">email: <a href="mailto:GloverJamesR@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">GloverJamesR@gmail.com</a></div></div></span></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:54 AM Harry Heist <<a href="mailto:harry@evict.com" target="_blank">harry@evict.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_3208972993250621324gmail-m_-115310201012661261gmail-m_7841363377848003334WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks James and Bob,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The problems we are facing are the online LCSWs or therapists that have no contact with the “patient” other than a $79 online consultation where the patient answers 10 questions online.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Getting a legit letter from a legit doctor is not the problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">How are you all dealing with these? We see the same ones over and over.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Harry<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">LAW OFFICES OF <br>HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.<br>PH: 1 800 253 8428<br>FAX: 1 800 367 9038<br>"Serving the Property Management Professional"<br>Website: </span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.evict.com/" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">www.evict.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <br>Email: </span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="mailto:harry@evict.com" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">harry@evict.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><table class="gmail-m_3208972993250621324gmail-m_-115310201012661261gmail-m_7841363377848003334MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" align="left" width="100%" style="width:100%;margin-left:6.75pt;margin-right:6.75pt;margin-bottom:7.75pt"><tbody><tr style="height:19.9pt"><td width="16%" rowspan="2" style="width:16.3%;padding:1.5pt;height:19.9pt"><table class="gmail-m_3208972993250621324gmail-m_-115310201012661261gmail-m_7841363377848003334MsoTableGrid" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="360" style="width:3.75in;border-collapse:collapse;border:none"><tbody><tr><td width="64" valign="top" style="width:48.3pt;padding:0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heist-Weisse-Wolk-PA/343965575625870" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="37" height="37" id="gmail-m_3208972993250621324gmail-m_-115310201012661261gmail-m_7841363377848003334Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:16911f848e77745b42"></span></a></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="296" valign="top" style="width:221.7pt;padding:0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br></span></b><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Visit us on Facebook</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td><td width="82%" valign="bottom" style="width:82.74%;padding:1.5pt;height:19.9pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:19.85pt"><td width="82%" valign="bottom" style="width:82.74%;padding:1.5pt;height:19.85pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org" target="_blank">landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org" target="_blank">landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Glover<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] ESA/SERVICE ANIMAL VERIFICATION MILLS<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Here's my management company's perspective on it, because we deal with a lot of these requests.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Our properties allow "normal" pets (size, type, and number) with pet rent and a pet deposit. Consequently, our ESA impact is only a loss of pet rent and deposit. If the resident brings us a note or prescription from a real doctor or therapist, and has a normal animal, then we accept the ESA request. We confirm with the doctor that it's a real note, but don't inquire further. Tenants sign ESA paperwork referencing the criminal statute 413.08, but we aren't investigating whether the physician and resident are violating the law. In my experience, requiring the doctors note deters most people with illegitimate claims from online websites. Even if the doctor's note and ESA are illegitimate, my property owners are OK taking the "loss" on pet rent.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">However, we have seen a lot of people that use the ESA process to try and get pit bulls and other unusual animals into our properties. We also had an applicant claim 5 ESA animals for a one bedroom apartment. Requiring a doctors note usually deters those people from the start. However, even if they follow through and give us the doctor note for the pit bull, we use the attached HUD memo as a way to kick the problem to our insurance company, or local ordinances to prove the accommodation is unreasonable. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">James<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">--</span></b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">James Glover</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)">office: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)">772.888.0865</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)">cell: 954.254.0436<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)">email: <a href="mailto:GloverJamesR@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">GloverJamesR@gmail.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:54 PM Harry Heist <<a href="mailto:harry@evict.com" target="_blank">harry@evict.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I am curious to see how you all are dealing with tenants and applicants who are claiming ESA/Service Animals and providing “proof” of need and disability from in and out of state mills.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Have any of you litigated one of these yet?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">We see them weekly. It is usually a LCSW who operates somewhere in the US and now many of these mills are getting ones that operate in each state.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Attached is one my client paid for to show how easy it is to get this.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">We are seeing the same LCSW over and over with the larger mills such as CERTIPET.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">We have advised clients to deny in many cases but nothing has been litigated by us yet.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The applicant has just gone away or they removed their dog that they tried to “certify”</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">How are you advising your landlords or the COAs or HOAs you represent?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Harry</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">LAW OFFICES OF <br>HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.<br>PH: 1 800 253 8428<br>FAX: 1 800 367 9038<br>"Serving the Property Management Professional"<br>Website: </span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.evict.com/" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">www.evict.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <br>Email: </span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="mailto:harry@evict.com" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">harry@evict.com</span></b></a></span><u></u><u></u></p><table class="gmail-m_3208972993250621324gmail-m_-115310201012661261gmail-m_7841363377848003334MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" align="left" 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