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<div class=MsoNormal style="font-size:12pt;"><B><SPAN style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Joseph S. Hughes, Esq.<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 25, 2016 4:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Damages for alleged violation of 83.49(1)?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div></DIV></DIV>
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<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"'>First, when combined with evidence of bad faith, commingling may serve as a basis for civil theft, breach of fiduciary duty, and conversion, permitting treble damages under civil theft in both small claims and county, and punitive damages under breach of fiduciary duty and conversion in county court. In county court, the fees will typically be higher than small claims.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div>
<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"'>Second, although difficult to prevail on, these additional claims may also entitle the tenant to a jury trial as independent tort actions where the lease nonetheless contains a jury trial waiver. This provides the tenant with additional leverage. If the landlord is particularly unlikeable or the emotional elements favor the tenant, this could be devastating to the landlord if the right jury is selected and could result in much higher damages (not to mention attorney's fees and costs). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></div>
<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"'>Third, I only know of one 2nd DCA case that says that commingling does not result in a forfeiture of the deposit. This could easily be disagreed with by other DCAs, and since a security deposit is considered "property", I would still make the argument that if the landlord cannot reasonably abide by the notice requirements when s/he has effectively converted the funds, thereby making the deposit unidentifiable for notice purposes, the notice would be defective. After all, how can a landlord make a claim on a deposit that technically no longer exists due to the commingling? Notice that a "deposit" is distinguished from "damages" for I believe this very reason, among others (including to avoid offers of judgment.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div>
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