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This company charges more than me. <a href="http://www.evictionsexpress.com/index.html">http://www.evictionsexpress.com/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Florida Bar needs to dedicate more money to UPL enforcement and less to making it easier for people to engage in UPL.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would do more than just complain about it but simply don’t care that much anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>LAW OFFICES OF <br>HEIST, WEISSE & WOLK P.A.<br>PH: 1 800 253 8428<br>FAX: 1 800 367 9038<br>"Serving the Property Management Professional"<br>Website: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.evict.com/"><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.evict.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <br>Email: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:harry@evict.com"><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>harry@evict.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 align=left width="100%" style='width:100.0%;margin-left:6.75pt;margin-right:6.75pt;margin-bottom:7.75pt'><tr style='height:19.9pt'><td width="16%" rowspan=2 style='width:16.3%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt;height:19.9pt'><table class=MsoTableGrid border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=360 style='width:3.75in;border-collapse:collapse;border:none'><tr><td width=64 valign=top style='width:48.3pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:9.0pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:margin;mso-element-top:4.55pt;mso-height-rule:exactly'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Heist-Weisse-Wolk-PA/343965575625870"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=37 height=37 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image001.png@01D0BFF1.CA6D5210"></span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=296 valign=top style='width:221.7pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:9.0pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:margin;mso-element-top:4.55pt;mso-height-rule:exactly'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Visit us on Facebook</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></td><td width="82%" valign=bottom style='width:82.74%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt;height:19.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:19.85pt'><td width="82%" valign=bottom style='width:82.74%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt;height:19.85pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%;mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:9.0pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:margin;mso-element-top:4.55pt;mso-height-rule:exactly'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leonard Cabral<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 16, 2015 5:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Security deposit issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Harry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I partly disagree that a “rental agent” and a “property manager” are the same although in some instances they could be. (I may have been confusing. Hopefully this may clear it up up. I was responding to the hypothetical designating </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>my friend “Joe” to be my “rental agent” instead of my current property manager who is licensed and works for Century 21. Joe has no license, he simply is my “rental agent”. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>In the hypothetical Joe is not a rental agent and need not be licensed to be a “property manager”. And the Property manager licensed by Century 21 many not fit the definition of “property manager” depending on the extent of his role in managing the property. I get really pissed when a realtors who are only listing a property for lease, and has no other involvement in the maintenance of the property files an eviction for non payment to get the current tenant out to make his/her commission. It is the unlicensed practice of law. I have provided my outline below. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is no definition of "rental agent" in Chapter 475 or Chapter 83. There is a definition for Broker and Sales person in Chapter 475 as you suggest but the definition of “property manager” is defined by the<i> The Fla. Bar re: Advisory Opinion</i>s which I cited in the earlier email and is the bases of this discussion below. Pursuant to DBPR, a rental agent may or may not need to be licensed depending on their role. According to DBPR a person renting or leasing or attempts to rent or lease real property of another for compensation requires a license BUT a <u>salaried employee</u> of an owner of an apartment community working in an onsite rental office does not need a license. So an on sight “rental agent” and “property manager” may be the same (and may file evictions for the landlord) but a rental agent licensed pursuant to Chapter 475 can not file an eviction unless they are also the property manager or they have participated in the unlicensed practice of law. So my reference to <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>UPL as it applies to this discussion was to define a “property manager”</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#003300'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In 1992 the Florida </span>The Supreme Court also concluded <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>it</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>is the unlicensed practice of law for a nonlawyer to draft and file a complaint for eviction and motion for default and to obtain a final judgment and writ of possession for a landlord but also authorized </span>a "property manager", with or without a power of attorney, to draft and serve a Three Day Notice, draft and file a Complaint for Eviction and Motion for Default and obtain a Final Judgment and Writ of Possession for the landlord in an uncontested residential evictions and mandated that the property manager utilize the Florida Bar approved forms pursuant to Rule 10-1.1(b) which must also be signed and filed by the landlord. In other words an exception for these activities normally performed by attorneys was carved out for "property managers". Then in 1993 The supreme Court of Florida <u>clarified</u> the above opinion <u>rejecting</u> the definition of “property manager” <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>to include only those persons licensed as real estate brokers or salespersons under chapter 475. </span>The Court limited the definition of a property manager <u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>a</span>s</u><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> one who is responsible for the day-to-day management of the residential rental property</span></u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>, as evidenced by such factors as responsibility for renting of units, maintenance of rental property, and collection of rent.</span><u> </u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Real estate brokers and salespersons who are licensed under chapter 475 <b><u>may</u></b> also qualify as "property managers" <u>if they otherwise fit within this definition</u></span><u> or property manager.</u> Stated another way a licensed Real estate broker or sales person may <b>not </b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>draft and serve a Three Day Notice, draft and file a Complaint for Eviction and Motion for Default and obtain a Final Judgment and Writ of Possession for the landlord in an uncontested residential eviction </span><u>unless</u> they are <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>responsible for the day-to-day management of the residential rental property</span>. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Leonard P. Cabral<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><a href="mailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com">Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#003300'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#003300'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#003300'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harry Heist<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 15, 2015 5:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Security deposit issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is incorrect Leonard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A rental agent and a property manager is no different. <u>Under 475, property management is not a listed real estate activity requiring licensure</u>. “Leasing” is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not sure where UPL is coming into this discussion. You are off track. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>LAW OFFICES OF <br>HEIST, WEISSE, & WOLK P.A.<br>PH: 1 800 253 8428<br>FAX: 1 800 367 9038<br>"Serving the Property Management Professional"<br>Website: <a href="http://www.evict.com/">www.evict.com</a> <br>Email: <a href="mailto:harry@evict.com">harry@evict.com</a></span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, AND INTENDED FOR THE PERSONS NAMED ABOVE ONLY. ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leonard Cabral<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Security deposit issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>There is no definition for “rental agent” in Chapter 83 but property manager is defined :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> Accordingly, for purposes of this opinion, a "property manager" is defined as one who is responsible for the day-to-day management of the residential rental property, as evidenced by such factors as responsibility for renting of units, maintenance of rental property, and collection of rent</span><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> The Fla. Bar re: Advisory Opinion Nonlawyer Preparation of Landlord Uncontested Evictions,</span></i><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>605 So. 2d 868 (Fla. 1992), clarified, 627 So. 2d 485, 487 (Fla. 1993)<span style='color:#993366'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>A rental agent is not a property manager. A rental agent advertises to rent an apartment for rent, takes his/her commission and that should be all he should be doing but because they have a real-estate license they think they can practice law. . On the other hand a property manager should be able to take a security deposit since he/she is “responsible for the day to day management of the residential rental property”. If the rental agent is not responsible for day to day management then anything after presenting the lease for signature in my opinion is UPL.</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#993366'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Leonard P. Cabral<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><a href="mailto:Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com">Leonardcabral@lenslaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harry Heist<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 14, 2015 1:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Security deposit issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>James,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The termination of management has nothing to do with the 30 day clock. I am not sure I understand.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Management is terminated all the time prior to the end of the lease for a myriad of reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Forcing the agent to hold the tenant’s money makes no sense especially when the owner will most likely not comply with FS 83.49 and if the agent has been fired, how does he/she have any power to inspect and make a claim on the deposit?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The owner is responsible for the tenant’s money. The agent is simply holding it. Whenever I see agents abscond with deposit money, the owner is on the hook for the agent’s actions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I really feel this is a case of sloppy drafting. My interpretation is that the “current owner” is not mentioned because it is obvious that the money can be transferred to the current owner who will have to comply with the law just like the agent would if they were managing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Let’s say I designate my friend “Joe” to be my “rental agent” instead of my current property manager who is licensed and works for Century 21. Joe has no license, he simply is my “rental agent”. Note there is no definition of rental agent in 83 unless I am missing it. So the legislature intended it is OK to transfer the money to Joe but not to ME as the owner? 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ALL OTHER USE, COPYING, OR DISTRIBUTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Zink<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 14, 2015 1:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Security deposit issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harry, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Do you have the Orlando case? To me, a big part of why the judge ruled this way is not just the language of the statute, but the fact that the termination of the management contract occurred <i>after</i> the tenant vacated, thus starting the clock on the return of the deposit or the issuance of a Notice of Claim. Without reading the Orlando case, I would think this judge’s interpretation is correct, largely because the statute is essentially written in a way that presumes the deposit is to be returned but for action by the landlord. In other words, it is the tenant’s money until it is properly claimed upon by the landlord. With that in mind, it is far more pragmatic, given the facts here, to require the management team to hold the deposit and notify the landlord in writing of the effect if the landlord fails to cooperate and allow the inspection of the property as it is the tenant’s money being held, not the landlord’s. I would be willing to bet the judge would have ruled differently if the contract were terminated while the tenancy was ongoing, based on how the decision was written. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>James Zink, Esq.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Florida Rural Legal Services, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>3111 South Dixie Highway, Suite 140<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>West Palm Beach, FL 33405<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone: (561) 820-8902 x. 6025<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax: (561) 820-8892<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The information contained in this e-mail, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for use by the named addressee(s). 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If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [<a href="mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">mailto:landten-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harry Heist<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'<br><b>Subject:</b> [RPPTL LandTen] Security deposit issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So, the owner fires management or management fires owner, where does sec dep go?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Law: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>(7) <u>Upon the sale or transfer of title of the rental property from one owner to another, or upon a change in the designated rental agent, any and all security deposits or advance rents being held for the benefit of the tenants shall be transferred to the new owner or agent, together with any earned interest and with an accurate accounting showing the amounts to be credited to each tenant account.</u> Upon the transfer of such funds and records to the new owner or agent, and upon transmittal of a written receipt therefor, the transferor is free from the obligation imposed in subsection (1) to hold such moneys on behalf of the tenant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>So. Sale from one owner to another, manager can transfer to new owner. Change in designated agent, manager can transfer to designated agent.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Big question. Suppose transfer is from manager to current owner?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Orlando judge said manager had to transfer to current owner when management was terminated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Tampa case: attached. Opposite interpretation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Issue: was the omission of “current owner” in the statute a mistake or on purpose? Is it obvious that a current owner has the same rights as a new “agent” or a new “owner” so it goes without saying an agent can transfer to the current owner?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>See attached from “Florida Bad Law Weekly”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This needs to be clarified. 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