[RPPTL LandTen] [RPPTL LandTenCL] Timing for Notice of Intention to Impose Claim

Thu Oct 10 08:50:45 PDT 2019

So if they sent it out and it took 5 days to receive, they did not “get” the notice within 30 days?  Suppose the tenant had the mail forwarded and it took 10 days to “get”?

The attorney’s position seems absurd but the law does say “give” not “send”. 

I can’t find one case probably because it seems so obvious.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Gregory R. Haney
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] [RPPTL LandTenCL] Timing for Notice of Intention to Impose Claim

I don’t really practice in the residential realm, so I don’t have similar war stories, but I disagree that it is an unreasonable position to interpret give as “deliver” instead of “send”.  If they didn’t receive it, how did you “give” it to them?   

That said, refusal to claim the certified letter should not count as failure to “give” in any instance, but have fun wording that.   

Bottom line is that “give” is a horribly ambiguous word to use in this instance and it should be fixed to be clear one way or the other.

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Unfortunately, you often cannot reason with an unreasonable person.  I've been in that position many times, I just tell them "if you are so sure, then file a lawsuit and let's see how it turns out."  But that's just me, I have little patience for foolishness.

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Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTenCL] [RPPTL LandTen] Timing for Notice of
Intention to Impose Claim
From: "Harry Heist" <harry at evict.com>
Date: Thu, October 10, 2019 11:00 am
To: "'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'" <landten at lists.flabarrpptl.org>
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He is hanging in the word “GIVE”.   The statute does not say “send”

(a)   Upon the vacating of the premises for termination of the lease, if the landlord does not intend to impose a claim on the security deposit, the landlord shall have 15 days to return the security deposit together with interest if otherwise required, or the landlord shall have 30 days to give the tenant written notice by certified mail to the tenant's last known mailing address of his or her intention to impose a claim on the deposit and the reason for imposing the claim.

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Tell him to read the Statute, there's no mention of any requirement of receipt, only that it be sent.

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Timing for Notice of Intention to Impose Claim
From: "Harry Heist" < <mailto:harry at evict.com> harry at evict.com>
Date: Thu, October 10, 2019 9:38 am
To: "'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee'" < <mailto:landten at lists.flabarrpptl.org> landten at lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Cc:  <mailto:landtenCL at lists.flabarrpptl.org> landtenCL at lists.flabarrpptl.org

I am dealing with a non landlord/tenant law attorney who is hell bent on saying that the tenant must RECEIVE the Notice of Intention to Impose Claim on Security Deposit within 30 days.

Our position is that it must be MAILED by certified mail within the 30 days.

Anyone have any cases on this? It is something so obvious but I don’t know of any cases.  

He is being relentless on this. This is the first time in 30 years I have an attorney taking this position and he is not backing down.

Thanks!

Harry

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