[RPPTL LandTen] Damages for alleged violation of 83.49(1)?

Harry Heist harry at evict.com
Mon Jul 25 14:38:30 PDT 2016


When I see attorneys filing cases solely for the purposes of getting an attorney’s fee award when their client was not damaged in any way shape or form, it makes me ashamed to be an attorney.

 

Someday I would like to see the attorney’s fee provision revisited in landlord/tenant law. A number of attorneys are making their living off of awards exceeding $10,000 against small, sometimes elderly  landlords who file pro se eviction cases with minor defects using Supreme Court approved forms. Often multipliers are awarded.  If the Bar is  going to encourage pro se filings “to make access to the courts affordable and easier to the pro se filer” there should be some duty on the courts to give some guidance to the pro se filer. I was speaking with a judge in a smaller county and told him about the multipliers that were being awarded in some counties. He was astounded and thought that was absurd.  I agree. 

 

Harry

 

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Todd Allen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Damages for alleged violation of 83.49(1)?

 

I generally do not file 57.105 motions, but I can’t imagine there being a better case.



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On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Leonard Cabral <LensLaw at Lenslaw.com> wrote:

 

I agree with Joseph but I wonder if you think the outcome would be different if the landlord could show that at all times during the tenancy the funds in the account where the money was comingled never went below the amount of the security deposit. (assuming that it stayed there until it was proper to remove). 

 

Also I was surprised that the definition of theft only requires someone to temporarily deprive the use of their property.  

 

Florida Statute §812.0145(1)(c)1 (1), a person commits theft if he or she knowingly obtains or uses, or endeavors to obtain or to use, the property of another with intent to, either temporarily or permanently: (a) deprive the other person of a right to the property or a benefit from the property and (b) appropriate the property to his or her own use or to the use of any person not entitled to the use of the property.

 

From:  <mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org> landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [ <mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org> mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Joseph S. Hughes, Esq.
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:28 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee < <mailto:landten at lists.flabarrpptl.org> landten at lists.flabarrpptl.org>
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Damages for alleged violation of 83.49(1)?

 

Yes.

First, when combined with evidence of bad faith, commingling may serve as a basis for civil theft, breach of fiduciary duty, and conversion, permitting treble damages under civil theft in both small claims and county, and punitive damages under breach of fiduciary duty and conversion in county court. In county court, the fees will typically be higher than small claims.

Second, although difficult to prevail on, these additional claims may also entitle the tenant to a jury trial as independent tort actions where the lease nonetheless contains a jury trial waiver. This provides the tenant with additional leverage. If the landlord is particularly unlikeable or the emotional elements favor the tenant, this could be devastating to the landlord if the right jury is selected and could result in much higher damages (not to mention attorney's fees and costs).   

Third, I only know of one 2nd DCA case that says that commingling does not result in a forfeiture of the deposit. This could easily be disagreed with by other DCAs, and since a security deposit is considered "property", I would still make the argument that if the landlord cannot reasonably abide by the notice requirements when s/he has effectively converted the funds, thereby making the deposit unidentifiable for notice purposes, the notice would be defective. After all, how can a landlord make a claim on a deposit that technically no longer exists due to the commingling? Notice that a "deposit" is distinguished from "damages" for I believe this very reason, among others (including to avoid offers of judgment.)

Just my two cents.

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On 2016-07-25 15:31, Alberto Cardet wrote:

Section 83.49(1) requires a landlord to hold a tenant's security deposit in separate account and not commingle said funds with any other funds.

 

Tenant vacates and landlord returns 100% of security deposit.  Tenant now sues alleging that "upon information and belief" the landlord violated 83.49(1) because landlord commingled funds.  Alleges that as a result tenant has suffered damages and in addition demands attorney fees and costs.

 

I have heard at local seminars that 83.49(1) does not contain any teeth, in the context that failure to abide by 83.49(1) by itself does not provide any remedy to the tenant or waive the landlord's right to make a claim on the deposit, which the landlord did not make in my case.

 

Even if a violation of 83.49(1) exists, is anyone aware of any damages that may be claimed by a tenant? 

 

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