[RPPTL LandTen] Ejectment or possession action
Manuel Farach
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Tue Apr 3 10:48:30 PDT 2012
Cary and Members of the Committee,
I can’t cite you the case right now, but you are correct that occupancy in exchange for work does create a landlord-tenant relationship.
Manny
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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Cary Sabol
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:41 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Ejectment or possession action
Since evictions under Ch. 83 are usually a much more efficient process (both time and expense), I always try to find an argument to make it a L/T case if possible. Under your facts, I would argue that Section 83.46(3) applies to their relationship (i.e. occupancy in exchange for employment), which allows the L/L to terminate the rental agreement in accordance with the notice requirements of 83.57.
Free rent in exchange for work being done, I believe, creates a landlord/tenant relationship pursuant to 83.46(3). Just my two cents.
Cary
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From: Alberto M. Cardet <alcardet at gmail.com<mailto:alcardet at gmail.com>>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Ejectment or possession action
I don’t think you have established a landlord – tenant relationship, so chapter 83 does not apply. I say unlawful detainer under chapter 82 is the way to go.
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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org<mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org> [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky
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Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Ejectment or possession action
Members: I’m curious to learn whether you think the person in the following fact scenario is a tenant subject to a possession action or not and subject to an ejectment action. Thank you for your thoughts.
FACTS: Owner agrees to allow Mrs. Smith to move in to the Owner’s condominium in exchange for payment of the electricity bill. Owner lives in the condominium as well. After one month, Mrs. Smith stops paying electricity bill. Owner then demands rent in the amount of $400 per month which Mrs. Smith initially agrees to pay but the deal terms change when Owner agrees that Mrs. Smith can remain in the unit without paying rent if she will assist Owner with a foreclosure action. Mrs. Smith at no time paid the $400/month. Mrs. Smith does assist Owner but now the foreclosure has been resolved. In the meantime, Mrs. Smith has invited another person into the unit, refuses to pay rent, remove the visitor or to turn over possession.
Eviction or Ejectment?
Thank you.
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Anthony J. Horky, Esquire
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