[RPPTL LandTen] Breach of Lease/Damages/Accelerated Rentthru what date

Thu Feb 9 08:40:02 PST 2012

I meant the rate established by 55.03.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Mazor
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No. I don't think so.

The legal rate is 18% but it has no connection  with the time-value of money.

Similarly, the statutory rate, which used to be fixed, theoretically reflects something of the time-value of money, but its tenuous and now, since it varies from year to year, it would be useless in a PV calculation.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of David Weisman
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Would the ‘legal rate’ apply if no rate were stated?

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:07 AM
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Yes, it would seem based on Anthony’s earlier email about using an accounting expert at trial to determine the PV calculation that you can either negotiate the rate in the lease or leave it to the court to work out a rate.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Arthur J. Menor
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:52 AM
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An issue that often gets overlooked in lease negotiations is the discount rate to be specifying in the acceleration clause.  The lower the rate the smaller the reduction for present value and the higher rate the greater the reduction.  In other words, the amount of the accelerated rent damages will be greater if a lower discount rate is chosen.  Therefore, when representing landlords our lease form states as follows:

If Tenant defaults, in addition to all remedies provided by law, Landlord may declare the entire balance of all forms of Rent due under this Lease for the remainder of the Lease Term to be forthwith due and payable and may collect the then present value of the Rents (calculated using a discount rate equal to the discount rate of the branch of the Federal Reserve Bank closest to the Premises in effect as of the date of the default).

Of course, if you are representing a tenant you would want to try for a higher discount rate such as a prime rate.

From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Haney, Gregory
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Absolutely agree.  When representing tenants I usually tack a NPV provision (at around 6%) onto the acceleration clause, but now I'll have to rethink trying to peg it, especially on longer term leases.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
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Thanks Anthony.  This has been instructive.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Anthony J. Horky
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:16 AM
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Recovery of accelerated rent is recovery of future economic losses.  I do not have a Florida Supreme Court case directly on point, but I have seen a number of DCA opinions stating that recovery of accelerated rent must be reduced to present day value.  See Vibrant Video, Inc. v. Dixie Pointe Associates, 567 So.2d 1003 (Fla. 3d DCA 1990); NEP Int’l, Inc. v. Falls, 629 So.2d 1019 (Fla. 4th DCA 1993); Florida Standard Jury Instruction 501.7. See, e.g. Braddock v. Seaboard Air Line R.R., 80 So.2d 662, 668 (Fla. 1955)(“…present compensation of future pain is merely one of the subjective elements of the problem, and is not a process of mathematical calculation of preset value, such as must be applied to periodic future pecuniary losses); Quintero-Chadid Corp v, Gersten, 582 So.2d 685,689 (Fla. 3d DCA 1991)(court noted that Vibrant Video held that a landlord’s future monetary losses had to be reduced to present value).

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:37 AM
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While I have not researched this, the question of whether accelerated rents “must” be discounted to present value if such is not stated in the lease arises from time to time, and I understand that judges do discount the amount to PV – BUT, is the discounting accelerated rents to PV a “mandatory” or uniform practice across courts in Florida or only followed in certain jurisdictions??

This is useful in cases where a landlord refuses to allow mention in the lease of discounting to PV.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Manuel Farach
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:43 PM
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I think the court sets what it believes to be an appropriate present value as applied to each case; I’m not aware of a case that gives a certain percentage.

As to question two, the answer is yes. I’ve filed partial satisfactions of the judgment once payments were made

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Mazor
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:29 PM
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I’ve researched this to death and haven’t found a direct answer. Maybe you can help?

Question One: If not provided for in the Lease, what discount rate do you use to calculate the Present Value of sums that come due under a lease?

Question Two: IF we sue for damages under an “Original Lease”, we are entitled to a judgment equal to:

(i)   past due rent, repair expense and other charges; plus,

(ii)  landlord's attorneys' fees and costs; plus,

(iii) “accelerated balance” due under the lease, less a credit for "the amount received upon reletting the premises", Boulevard Shoppes, A.B. v. Pro-1 Realty, Inc.605 So.2d 1317 (Fla., 4th DCA, 1992), reduced to present value.

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Jeff Mazor

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