[RPPTL LandTen] Unlawful Detainer issue

Alberto M Cardet acardet at justice.com
Tue Jan 31 11:31:05 PST 2012


I have had the same experience in Miami-Dade as Carol and agree with her analysis. 

 

Alberto M. Cardet, P.A.

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From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Cary Sabol
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:10 PM
To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
Subject: Re: [RPPTL LandTen] Unlawful Detainer issue

 

Neil,

 

I recently handled two Unlawful Entry & Detainer cases in Palm Beach County and proceeded under Chapter 82 and both cases went very smoothly and we were able to have the trespassers removed in a relatively timely manner.  Sec. 82.03 specifically states these matters are entitled to summary procedure under Sec. 51.011.

 

Regarding his concern that this statute does not apply to residential properties, I would respectfully disagree.  Although Sec. 82.02(2) states: "This section shall not apply with regard to residential tenancies," my argument is that this is not a "tenancy."  It doesn't say the statute doesn't apply to "residential properties" it specifically says "tenancies" which I read to mean that you have to use Ch. 83 if a "tenancy" has been created.  In my humble opinion, illegally obtaining possession and occupancy of a property (residential or commercial) does not create a "tenancy."  Sec. 83.43(4) defines a "tenant" as "any persona entitled to occupy a dwelling unit under a rental agreement."  Since there is no rental agreement, the occupant cannot be a "tenant" and therefore, the situation is not a residential "tenancy."

 

Based on the above roundabout analysis, I would (and did successfully) argue that Ch. 82 does apply to this situation. 

 

Cary 

Law Offices of Cary P. Sabol

P.O. Box 15981 | West Palm Beach | Florida | 33416 

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From: Neil B. Shoter <NShoter at shutts.com>
To: 'RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee' <landten at lists.flabarrpptl.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Unlawful Detainer issue

 

We received the following inquiry regarding a residential eviction matter.   While our ListServe is not intended to provide a free legal forum for advice to the community at large, if you wish to offer a response to Mr. Haas on his question of the applicability of unlawful detainer to his scenario, I invite you to email Mr. Haas directly. 

 

Neil

 

From: Lee Haas [mailto:lee at haas-castillo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:11 PM
To: Meyer, George J.
Cc: Adams, Darlene
Subject: Chapter 82 issues

 

Mr. Meyer,

 

I’ve practiced law in Clearwater for the past 28 years, handling business, construction, and real estate litigation, but only this last summer had my first unlawful detainer case, referred by a fellow attorney.  I now have another situation that appears tailor-made to resolution by filing an unlawful entry and detainer case, except for the fact that it is residential property.  The legislature amended the statute in 1977 to eliminate residential cases from the scope of the statute, but it is not clear to me what the alternative is.  I am contacting you as chair of RPPTL on the suggestion of a judge who formerly served in the legislature in the hope that you may have some insight into the statute or a means of suggesting an amendment to the statute that would actually get considered. 

 

The facts of my latest case are that my client left town, leaving keys to a rental property with a friend (or so she thought).  When she returned, she found that this “friend” had signed a lease to the property as landlord with a convicted felon for two years with 0 rent except cleaning out the place.  The felon proceeded to throw all my client’s stuff out of her house, and has probably kept, sold, or pawned her valuables.  Unlawful entry and detainer proceedings would be the quickest way for my client to regain possession – but it is inapplicable to residential matters.  The person doesn’t qualify as a tenant as defined in 83.43(4), because he isn’t entitled to occupy under a rental agreement, so I question whether part II of Chapter 83 provides the appropriate remedy.  He’s arguably a trespasser, but chapter 66 doesn’t apply because he’s not claiming ownership.

 

I have to believe with the recent surge in foreclosures and empty properties, as well as from some of the news stories, that this issue has come up before.  What have you heard on how lawyers have dealt with these types of situations?  Has anyone else suggested that maybe chapter 82 needs to be tweaked to permit its use in certain types of residential matters?     

 

Lee L. Haas, Esquire

Haas & Castillo, P.A.

Attorneys At Law

19321-C U.S. Hwy 19 N, Ste. 401

Clearwater, Florida 33764

(727) 535-4544 telephone

(727) 535-1855 facsimile

lee at haas-castillo.com

 

 


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