[RPPTL LandTen] Surety bond release for residential security deposit

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Wed Jan 6 13:00:33 PST 2010


I have successfully used usury to get a landlord to settle litigation  
and have convinced landlord clients to settle.  Penalties are  
onerous.  I constantly struggle with clients on this.  The late fee  
should never be a % based on time.

I will look on my computer but it may not be recent enough.

Sent from my iPhone; sorry for any errors.

On Jan 6, 2010, at 3:49 PM, "Lloyd Granet" <lgranet at granetlaw.com>  
wrote:

> I have been presented with the following fact pattern on behalf of a  
> tenant. Lease provides
>
>     A.    if Tenant does not timely pay rent, delinquent amount  
> accrues interest at the highest rate allowed by law.
>
>     B.    for a fee for burdens of dealing with late payment.  The  
> fee is calculated as 5% per month of the late amount.
>
>
> While I am used to seeing a processing fee which is a fixed number  
> on top of specified interest rate, specifying the fee as percentage  
> of rent owed is new to me.
>
>
> Two arguments jump out
>
>     1.    if the fee is interest, it is usurious, as the fee by  
> itself is 60% per annum
>     2.    if the fee is not interest it is an unenforceable  
> penalty.  The fee can not be compensation for the time value of  
> money as it is covered by the interest charge. Liquidated damages  
> which are unrelated to the harm and disproportionate to the harm  
> would be the classic penalty.
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with this or know the law?  Thank you.
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>         From: landten-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:landten- 
> bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Neil B. Shoter
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>         Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:53 PM
>         To: RPPTL Landlord Tenant Committee
>         Subject: [RPPTL LandTen] Surety bond release for residential  
> security deposit
>
>
>         Has anyone dealt with the release of a bond for residential  
> security deposit under Section 83.49?   This particular surety bond  
> needs to be released but the release that was received includes a  
> requirement that the State of Florida sign off on it, and no one  
> seems to know which office or department of the State deals with  
> these bonds.  Any ideas???
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