<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Check definition of owner. Anyone with a legal or equitable interest. There is a case on this with some owner having an equitable interest. <br><br>Eric Kolar<div>3305 Atlantic Boulevard, Suite B</div><div>Jacksonville FL 32207</div><div>904 396-0009</div></div><div><br>On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Michelle Kane <<a href="mailto:Michelle@michellebkanepa.com">Michelle@michellebkanepa.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I agree one can lien, but I am curious as to the validity of the title as stated. Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Leiby<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RPPTL constructionlaw<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] construction lien - title question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Off the top of my head I would say yes if you can show that the son was aware of the improvement and did not object. The argument is that the parents were acting as agents for the son. If you can’t show that
the son knew then be sure to add counts under 713.11 and a claim for an equitable lien. The language on service of documents is helpful. 713.18(4) but it only addresses service. You have to be concerned with the first sentence of 713.10(1).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org">constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a> [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Atkinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org">constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RPPTL-constructionlaw] construction lien - title question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0">Hi all,
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color:#0070C0"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0">Crazy question of the day (for me at least):
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0070C0">May a contractor file a lien against property titled as below where the residential improvement contract (over $2,500) was only between
Husband and Wife and contractor (not Son):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0070C0"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0070C0">Wife, as 7.5 percent tenant in common with Husband, as 42.5 percent tenant in common with Son, as 50 percent owner with Husband and
Son holding their individual interests with right of survivorship only between themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#0070C0"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0">Any input or help would be most appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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