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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>For purposes of complying with CBE requirements, can someone shed some light on a way to define what will constitute sufficient services so as not to be deemed “a conduit”? (Besides the statutory language of 287.0943) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><img width=218 height=60 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.gif@01CD2EC5.2E0A89D0" alt=Logo><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Tracye K. Solove, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Certified Civil Circuit Mediator<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><a href="Tracye@solovelawfirm.com">Tracye@solovelawfirm.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Kendallwood Office Park One<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>12002 Southwest 128th Court<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Suite 201<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Miami, Florida 33186<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Phone: (305) 612-0800<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Facsimile: (305) 612-0801<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><a href="http://www.solovelawfirm.com/">http://www.solovelawfirm.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>Providing Statewide Legal Services in the areas of Commercial Collections and Recovery, Creditors' Rights, Commercial Landlord/Tenant and Real Estate Foreclosures<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>This transmission is intended to be delivered only to the named addressee(s) and may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, attorney work-product or attorney-client privileged. If this notification is received by anyone other than the intended recipient(s), the recipient(s) should immediately notify the undersigned by E-MAIL and by telephone and obtain instructions as to the disposal of the transmitted material. In no event shall this material be read, used, copied, reproduced, stored or retained by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) except with the express written consent of the sender. Thank you. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Leiby<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> RPPTL constructionlaw; CHernicz@herniczlegal.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Claims of Lien Drafted byNotice Companies<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you make a complaint to the Bar UPL committee they <u>will</u> investigate and if they find UPL will either seek a cease and desist affidavit or file proceedings in the Fla. Supreme Court. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>See 287 So.2d 305<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#215868'>Larry R. Leiby, Esq.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Malka & Kravitz, P.A. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1300 Sawgrass Corp. Pkwy., Suite 100<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33323<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone: 954-514-0984<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax: 954-514-0985 e-mail: leiby@mkpalaw.com<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#1F497D'>Board Certified in Construction Law<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#1F497D'>Fla. Supreme Court Certified Circuit Court Civil Mediator<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#1F497D'>Member, Leiby Alexander Brandt ADR Group, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#1F497D'>Member, JAMS Global Engineering and Construction Panel <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#1F497D'>Fellow, College of Commercial Arbitrators<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=112 height=94 id="Picture_x0020_0" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CD2EC5.2E0A89D0" alt="Description: JAMSadr.com.jpg"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael D. Randolph<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> CHernicz@herniczlegal.com; RPPTL constructionlaw<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] Claims of Lien Drafted by Notice Companies<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I too have had such an "agent" draft, file and serve a lien without client consent. Practicing without a license. Why are these acts not being investigated by the appropriate<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>authority?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mike<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On May 2, 2012, at 12:21 PM, "Charles B. Hernicz, Esq" <<a href="mailto:CHernicz@herniczlegal.com">CHernicz@herniczlegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>The 2007 changes to chapter 713 included a change to 713.08 that states--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>(2)</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>The claim of lien may be prepared by the lienor or the lienor’s employee or attorney and shall be signed and sworn to or affirmed by the lienor or the lienor’s agent acquainted with the facts stated therein.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>My understanding was that this was intended to prohibit notice companies from drafting claims of lien. The result has been that the notice companies are still drafting the liens but no longer putting their information in the “Prepared by and return to” block. I’ve had several problems in the past few weeks with liens improperly drafted, and in one case signed by the notice company as “agent” of the contractor and recorded without the contractor’s knowledge or approval (which almost blew up a settlement deal we had worked out). What can/should be done to stop this??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'>Charles B. Hernicz, Esq.<br></span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Board Certified in Construction Law by The Florida Bar<br></span></b><span style='font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:blue'>Hernicz Legal Services, P.L.<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'>15854 Bent Creek Road <br>Wellington, FL 33414 <br>Telephone: (561) 753-7511 <br>Facsimile: (561) 753-7082 <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue'><a href="Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com">Chernicz@HerniczLegal.com</a></span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>constructionlaw mailing list<br><a href="mailto:constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org">constructionlaw@lists.flabarrpptl.org</a><br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/constructionlaw">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/constructionlaw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Michael D. 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