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<DIV align=left dir=ltr><SPAN class=618465818-09052012><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>There are several Florida Bar Ethics opinions on the issue
(one of them is 89-3, which is pre-Rule 4-3.4), they all say you cannot threaten
<EM>criminal</EM> complaints to obtain an advantage in civil litigation.
None the opinions I am aware of say anything about threats of civil litigation
or administrative complaints, so one could argue that because the Bar chose not
to include civil or admin, it must have meant to exclude it. There is an
opinion out there somewhere (sorry I can't find the cite at the moment) that
says it is unethical to threaten litigation if you have no intention of actually
suing, but says it is ok to tell debtors that if they don't pay you may exercise
all legal options, which could include a lawsuit to recover the
money.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left dir=ltr><SPAN class=618465818-09052012><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>There is actually a fair amount out there on this
issue. For example, Florida Bar Ethic opinion 85-3 says its ok to refer to
possible criminal penalties when sending out a statutory worthless check letter
as long as it is narrowly tailored to track the language of the statute and
gives notice that it is being sent on behalf of a client. While I am
unaware of a similar opinion relating to F.S. 713.31 (fraudulent liens), I think
the same logic can be applied.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Fred
Barnes<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'RPPTL
constructionlaw'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] [RPPTL] - Would
CILB violatetheYounger GC below?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Expansive
definition of extortion would include any threat of a lawsuit if payment not
made by a certain date. My understanding is that you can threaten
administrative complaint, but definitely not criminal prosecution.
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">You
have to be careful when you are talking about fraudulent liens so as not to
threaten referral for criminal prosecution under 713.31.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Daniel Moody<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'RPPTL constructionlaw'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] [RPPTL] -
Would CILB violate theYounger GC below?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I haven't researched
the issue in quite some time, but it is my understanding that it would be
extortion to threaten <U>criminal</U> prosecution, but not if the
threat is one of filing an <U>administrative</U> complaint or initiating an
administrative proceeding.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Daniel L.
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Sakwa, Stuart H.<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 06, 2012 3:33
PM<BR><B>To:</B> RPPTL constructionlaw<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[RPPTL-constructionlaw] [RPPTL] - Would CILB violate theYounger GC
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regardless
of the facts, it is always improper to threaten someone with reporting
misconduct in order to extract compensation. It is considered
extortion. On the other hand, Older GC can just report the
conduct. After he does so, often times, the CILB will require
restitution. Also, if the Younger GC pays the money due, Older GC can
agree to withdraw his complaint. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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[mailto:constructionlaw-bounces@lists.flabarrpptl.org] <B>On Behalf Of
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black">"I
introduce <B>"Younger GC"</B> to <B>"Older GC"</B> and younger GC goes
to work for older GC's company. Younger GC agrees to work only for older
GC's company and to develop older GC's business. They both agree that Younger
GC shall, under his old company name, complete all existing jobs of which
there are not many. Later, younger GC asks older GC for a loan to finish
a two jobs because he took money to do the jobs, and spent the money before
the permits were issued. He did not have enough money to finish the jobs.
It is unknown whether the jobs were ever finished. During his employment
Younger GC promises verbally (and in writing when he signed his resignation
letter) to pay back the loan. He made similar verbal promises
after he left his employment. It is now obvious to older GC that he is not
going to be paid back his money. Can older GC threaten younger GC with a
complaint to the CILB regarding younger GC's financial irresponsibility in
failing to properly manage the funds on the two jobs and also for refusing to
pay back older GC for the loan in order to inspire younger GC to repay the
loan? If such a complaint is made, will the CILB sanction younger GC? Or,
is this improper for older GC to make the threat in order to get paid
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