[RPPTL-constructionlaw] 489.128 Fla. Stat. & failure to have a certificate of authority
fred.dudley at hklaw.com
fred.dudley at hklaw.com
Mon Nov 14 13:44:04 PST 2011
So, if your case is in federal court. Lake Eola should protect your client. But, if its in state court...good luck!
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Thank you for all the responses.
For clarification, the organization did not have a certificate of authority and did not have any paperwork filed showing it had a qualifying agent. However, like the contractor in Lake Eola Builders, the contractor did employ an individual who held the requisite license.
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All the recent amendment did was remove the language requiring a “Certificate of Authority,” which was never a document issued by DBPR anyway. However, the requirement for a qualifying agent is still there (and is so interpreted under all the state cases).
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From: constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org [mailto:constructionlaw-bounces at lists.flabarrpptl.org] On Behalf Of Tina Caraballo
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Subject: Re: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 489.128 Fla. Stat. & failure to have a certificate of authority
I disagree with Fred. Since the amendment that took effect in 2003, section 489.128(1)(a) provides that a business organization is unlicensed if it does not have a primary or secondary qualifying agent. The Lake Eola case recognized that the legislature had directed the courts to look at whether an organization has a qualifying agent rather than whether it has the necessary paperwork to demonstrate this fact. This is consistent with the Baker County Medical Services case as well as state court cases. The Board of Trustees v. Morgan case focused its attention of whether the building professionals involved were licensed as did Promontory and Martin Daytona Corp. In those cases the organization actually had the properly licensed individuals, just not the paperwork. This is consistent with the overall statutory scheme as the failure to apply for registration or certification as a qualifying agent of a business organization under section 489.119, Florida Statutes, does not make the contract unenforceable. Section 489.105 defines a qualifying agent and that is where the focus properly lies – in other words does the organization have the person with the required license and qualifications.
While there are no reported decisions following the 2009 amendment that reflects the abolition of the certificate of authority, the old cases are still valid and binding as they also interpreted subsection (a), which remains in the current version of the statute. The reasoning and holdings cannot be rejected simply because the certificate of authority is no longer required. I submit to you the decision in each of those cases would have been different if the organization did not actually have the required licensed contractor.
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The federal cases (like Lake Eola, Baker County, etc) are at odds with the state cases (in which the contracting entity MUST have an approved QA).
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Subject: [RPPTL-constructionlaw] 489.128 Fla. Stat. & failure to have a certificate of authority
Committee members: Please pardon the interruption. I have the following question: If a contractor business organization did not have a certificate of authority at the time of contract, does the 489.128 penalty apply?
I am aware of the 2006 Lake Eola Builders decision saying the penalty does not apply, but one of the primary bases of that holding was eliminated from the statute in 2009 (deletion of the savings clause indicating that failure to hold a certificate of authority did not deem the contractor unlicensed if a licensed individual applied for such a certificate).
Does anyone have any knowledge as to why the legislature made this amendment in 2009?
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